Midfielders

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much of a cliche would it be to post the image of Daphne Szetela when he was allocated to the Crew.

    Man, as much as Freddy was an underachiever, at least he achieved SOMEthing. Szetela’s career was like the temperature in deepest space, barely above absolute zero.
     
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  2. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did not watch the match. May checkout a replay later.

    Here are the highlights.

     
  3. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    He's eligible for free agency. I doubt he'd take it, though.
     
  4. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don’t look now but Tillman just played the 6/8 type role in a massive champions league match vs City.

    And was sensational, leading all players in duels won, recoveries (9!) and tackles (6) and was instrumental in the build up to both goals.
     
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  5. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cardoso returning after a long injury absence started and went ~60 in a Atletico 2-1 win over Napoli. Did not watch was toggling between Bayern/Arsenal and Liverpool/PSV. Looks like he played as a #6 in a 4-1-4-1.

    Anyone watch?
     
  6. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    McKennie with a goal from wing back position.
     
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  7. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As I said earlier in this thread and yesterday showed it again. We are going to have a UCL level midfielder not make the final roster. Thats crazy good actually.
     
  8. Geoduck

    Geoduck Member

    Sep 24, 1999
    IMO the results of today's WC draw guarantee Roldan a roster spot (and probably a starting spot in at least one group stage match) and damage Cardoso's roster chances. Roldan helped set up all the goals in the recent friendly victories against Paraguay and Australia, while Cardoso made the colossal blunder that led to Turkiye (our likely third opponent) beating us in the pre-GC friendly.
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Against 2 teams in our group that don’t press, that play low or mid blocks, to me this is a boost for players are better in a “half court offense” than on the counter, and also a boost for Seb and his set pieces.

    Interesting idea though
     
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  10. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Roldan isn't really competing with Cardoso. CR7 is a vibes guy. He will be one of the 3 extra roster spots. That's not to say he won't play.

    The proper competition for CM in 3421/4231 are Adams, Tessmann, Berhalter, Cardoso, Musah, Morris, and Sands. Tillman and McKennie can also play CM.
     
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  11. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roldan is ahead of all of them to Poch save the top two, and even Tessman is questionable.
    You’re right, Roldan isn’t in competition with Cardoso, that competition is over, if it ever existed, and Roldan won it. Easily better with the Nats than Cardoso to this point.
     
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  12. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Barring injuries, when everything shakes out, Roldan will be one of the extra 3.
     
  13. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m not sure what extra three is, but he’ll play more than everyone you listed save Adams and Tessman, and may even play more than Tessman. In fact, I’ll wager he plays more central mid than Tillman or McKennie, they have a different role now.
    Could be wrong of course, we’ll see next summer.
     
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  14. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Honestly, I could totally see Tillman play almost anywhere in our midfield.

    While McKennie is basically a central midfielder, I have the feeling that he'll mostly be used in the attacking midfield or wing, like he gets used with Juve. He may end up coming central and deep a lot, but he'll be used as a chance creator and force multiplier more than as a solid metronome.

    Tillman could be used as a solid, ball-secure metronome and duel-winner, or as a creator, depending on the opponent, game plan, and game state.
     
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  15. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the draw I think Sebs stock just went up. Playing two low block sides is going to make set pieces a prime consideration.
     
  16. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any rankings on which midfielders are more yellow-card prone? That probably will affect who starts.
     
  17. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Ironically, I think it also helps Reyna, as somebody on the back end of the squad (even if he's not a starter) who can be brought on in the second half to break down a packed in defense.
     
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  18. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need both Reyna and Seb on the team. They each bring a needed skill set that no else really has.
     
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  19. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I sure hope I am wrong but I can foresee a decisive WC moment in which Roldan or SB isn’t up to the occasion.
     
  20. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Well Pulisic wasn’t up to the occasion for a big moment against the Netherlands so obviously it could happen to Roldan or Musah or someone like that.
     
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  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wasn’t focusing on Berhalter, I was enjoying the match, but my first impression is that he wasn’t good today.
     
  22. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope you are wrong. I am feeling good about our chances right now.
     
  23. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    There are lots of reasons players have bad games. Given that he’s an elite athlete used to playing against the best players under the brightest lights, I don’t think I would make the inference that that was the reason for that bad game.
     
  24. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    You were talking about decisive moments, now you’re talking about bad games. A bit of a distinction there. I could see Roldan doing a lot right in the course of a World Cup game.
     
  25. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Then I misinterpreted the post to which I responded. But if you think Pulisic is not mentally and physically better inclined to handle the big stage than either Roldan or Berhalter, then we disagree. Which is fine.
     
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