Midfield is lookin better

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  1. MetroStars

    MetroStars New Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    Giamarino, Williams and Clark. If they can get a good central midfielder, I think they can be very good.
     
  2. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    After all this time, I can't believe this is the first time someone took the name MetroStars.
     
  3. MetroStars

    MetroStars New Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    I think I saw someone post as MetroStars96. Someone had the idea before.
     
  4. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    It might even get better

    North Jersey. Com's reporter Ives Galarcep is saying that Metro is close to signing Guevara

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    'El Lobo' set to sign

    Honduran national team captain and playmaking midfielder Amado Guevara is set to sign with the MetroStars, league sources confirmed Monday. Metros officials would not confirm Guevara's acquisition, but the veteran with 75 caps for Honduras is expected to sign this week and join the team ahead of it's April 12 season opener against Columbus.
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    Here is the link

    http://www.northjersey.com/page.php...lRUV5eTYzNjEwODImeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2
     
  5. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    Especially if you replace Williams with LeBlanc.
     
  6. MetroStars96

    MetroStars96 New Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    yup...metromascot was getting old and was giving me problems logging in so I decided a name change was good. I figured someone already took the name "MetroStars" but apparently I was wrong. Anywayz, carry on.


    Midfield:
    Williams-Clark
    DiGi-Mathis-Guevara
     
  7. BrooklynGladiator

    BrooklynGladiator New Member

    Jan 27, 2003
    big up to Brooklyn
    why do i keep seeing people putting Mathis in the Attacking midfield and Guevara on the right of Midfield. Christ, you know Mathis is gonna play forward, so why bother. and Guevara wasnt chased that whole time just to be on the flanks.
    Mathis is partnering Moreno up front, Magee won't start yet. He's gonna be coming off the bench and scoring goals, like how Gio was in '96. i just dont understand how you put Mathis in the midfield when we have no depth at all in the forward position.


    dre
     
  8. metrosct

    metrosct New Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Rowayton, CT
    If you want to put the best 11 players on the field, I think both Mathis and Magee should be out there. While I have not seen Magee play, his name continues to show up in the preseason scoring. Further Bob has a lot of faith in him as he traded away Davis to get him. Finally, Jeff Bradley has predicted that he will score 10 goals this season. You don't make such comments unless you think it is likely he will see significant playing time. Bradley has made comments to the effect that Mathis could see time at D-mid.

    I do agree that Guevara will not be playing wide right - he is here to run the show. He could probably play a little deeper (like a holding mid) and let Mathis play as a withdrawn forward to Magee and Moreno.
     
  9. MetroStars96

    MetroStars96 New Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Magee can be a starter on this team and a lot of praise comes from Bradley about Magee. Remember that Bradley puts his best players out there. Not the best positional players in a sense. That being said, Mathis and Guevara may both be playing attacking midfielders with the right flank covered by a defensive midfielder in Bradley's system.

    Are you Bob Bradley knowing all this? If anything happens up front with regards to injuried, Mathis simply slides forward into the attacking spot with Jaime and a player such as Lisi can take the vacant spot. Jacob LeBlanc can come off the bench if anything else goes wrong.

    That's why I put Clint as an attacking midfielder along with Guevara. Powerful attack.
     
  10. MetroStars

    MetroStars New Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    I think with the 3-5-3 system that Bradley will use the starters will be:

    Moreno - F
    Mathis - F
    Guevera - CAM
    DiGiamarino - WLM
    Williams - CDM
    Clark - CDM
    Ziade - WRM
    Joley - RD
    Pope - CD
    Addo - LD
    Howard - G
     
  11. BrooklynGladiator

    BrooklynGladiator New Member

    Jan 27, 2003
    big up to Brooklyn
    i agree on all but one thing, Joe Addo. i think its gonna be Regan personally. and i know my opinion means ************ so relax on calling me Bob Bradley, i was simply trying to get a point across


    dre
     
  12. soccerdad

    soccerdad Member

    Dec 27, 1998
    montclair nj
    Re: It might even get better

    so is Brian Lewis in NY Post

    http://www.nypost.com/sports/33333.htm
     
  13. MJNES

    MJNES New Member

    Jul 8, 1999
    Cranford, NJ
    I like Mathis up top with Moreno to start. Mathis' workrate has never been exceptional, so I'd rather see him up top where he can concentrate on scoring goals.

    I'd like to see Magee start on the right wing a few times, that might be interesting. But then we'd really have no strikers to come in late in the game to spell Mathis or Moreno. I think Zaidie will start most of the time at that spot.

    I also agree that Bradley will let Regan learn on the field, he'll start over Addo.
     
  14. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    ....Moreno - Mathis - Magee....
    DiGi - Guevara - Clark - LeBlanc
    ......Jolley - Pope - Ziadie.......
    ...............Howard.................

    We want (in the words of Ty Keough) O-Fence.
     
  15. MetroStars

    MetroStars New Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    I think Bob Bradley likes to use 5 midfielders. It is 3-5-2 system not 3-5-3.
     
  16. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    Because 3-5-3 would be cheating, wouldn't it
     
  17. MetroStars

    MetroStars New Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    The refs would probably see the extra player nd call a controversial penalty shot.
     
  18. Wabbit67

    Wabbit67 Member

    May 19, 2002
    Avon-by-the-Sea, NJ
    If we put that line-up out there, we would see a lot of O-Fence...most of it from the other team. Last year showed the importance of strong defensive midfield play. Without R. Williams and Hernandez our defense was a sieve. It would be a shock if R. Williams is not in the starting 11. He won't contribute much to the attack, but he is needed to slow down the attack in front of the back line. Bradley seems to favor a defensive style so if you're looking for O-Fence, I think you'll be disappointed.
     
  19. soccerdad

    soccerdad Member

    Dec 27, 1998
    montclair nj
    not if you play with no goalie
     
  20. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    I'm not entirely in disagreement with you (my line-up was wishful thinking), though I would contend that the foremost problem with the Metros' defense over the years has not been the lack of defensive midfielder to destroy the opposing build-up, but instead the lack of a midfield that could hold and control the ball. And Williams, in fact, will likely contribute to that problem as much as he may help with destroying the opponent's attack. His inability to receive from the back and move the ball forward (ABMOD could just as easily mean "Always Backpassing Midget of Death") might simply feed into the frustration which has so often led our backs, and Howard as well, to simply boot the ball upfield in hopes of someone running on to it. Do we all remember getting on Howard for his aimless long-distance boots in the Argentina game (possibly the Jamaica game) - where do you think he picked up that habit? The Metros have consistently lacked, over the years, a midfield that could control play, and that, IMHO, has been more a cause of our defensive lapses than the lack of a D-Mid.
     
  21. MJNES

    MJNES New Member

    Jul 8, 1999
    Cranford, NJ
    While you are dead-on about Richie having the vision of Mr. Magoo when trying to shift the team from offense to defense, we'll also have Clark on the field as well. While he probably has a lot to learn, I'd imagine he'll be able to hold the ball and at least make an offensive-minded pass to get the ball to Guevara and Mathis and the rest.
     
  22. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    Which is why I included Clark in my midfield. He seems to have the abilities both to let Guevara go forward without worry, yet still be part of the offense himself, as opposed to what so many d-mids are: merely a free-roaming defender in front of the rest of the defenders.
     
  23. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    They are all still a bunch of ugly f00ks.
     
  24. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    There's no way that I see Ziadie starting unless injuries decimate our midfield and backline. Decimate. Decimate. Jolley, Regan and Pope should all be pencilled in as starters along the backline.

    Clark seems to have been very successful in camp, and I imagine he would see time at either right mid or defensive midfield. Kid is gonna be a stud.

    Digimarino will be a wonderful left mid in Bradley's system; he plays a simple game and is tough on the tackle and very defensive minded oriented, yet another plus (see Whitfield, Marsch).

    Mathis could also fall back into the midfield and play as the number ten with Gueverrra behind him in support. Since Gueverra is a real two way player, Mathis might not see quite as much defensive responsabilities, freeing him up to be more of a deep forward, allowing him to spray balls from midfield and make deep runs. This could use Mathis' vision in a prime manner.

    And please folks, enough with the Williams bashing. The guy does have good vision of the field, but his role is to be a mini terminator in the center of the pitch, to win the tackle and build possession, and not to play long balls or low percentage balls out of the back. Williams' role is to win the ball and pass it quickly out to the wings or Gueverra or Mathis, and he does that role very well. So enough Williams' bashing.

    Moreno surely will play up top and his trim figure and newfound fitness will be ideal in pressuring backlines to turn the ball or hurry passes. It will be hard to pin Moreno down to one flank or another as he wanders across the field and can interchange with Mathis and Magee to provide overlaps and headaches for defenders.

    We're looking at guys like LeBlanc, Addo and Glowienka being primary substitutes and other players like Lisi, Ziadie and Arena chipping in when neccessary to fill voids. Throw in an Argentinian or two and we have more cover and depth for the team.

    But our team is strong down the middle, as with any Arena or Bradley team. Look at Moreno, Mathis, Gueverra, Williams, Pope and Howard. That's a solid core boys and girls.
     
  25. MetroStars

    MetroStars New Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    When did Regan start at left back? Isn't he central?
     

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