Miami/Tampa rivalry thread -MODERATED

Discussion in 'Fort Lauderdale Strikers' started by speedcake, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. Antique

    Antique Member

    Nov 11, 2008
    the river of grass
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forgive us if we disagree. We were having too much fun & too much noise, especially from the fool on the cowbell, to hear you. For us it is Us 1; you 0.

    Now, in Tampa you may very well win, at least in your "minds". We won't have a bus so I'm not sure if the drums will make the trip. For all that, we'll still have fun & make all the noise we can. At games end we'll think it will be us 2; you 0. Forever....:p
     
  2. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmm...not what we've heard from people who watched the online stream and/or listened to the radio broadcast here in Tampa.

    :)
     
  3. ckh1

    ckh1 New Member

    Jul 19, 2009
    Dubai
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    So, "the mob" was there from Tampa? didn't see them or hear them.
    Only the Tampon TOOL I saw, was the ugly heathen looking TAMPON that got escorted away like a terrorist! HAHA
     
  4. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    not surprised if you can't hear anything after going deaf from standing next to those ridiculous drummers you've got in your "supporter section".

    Pretty sure we could care ******** all about you hearing us anyway. We know our boys heard us and yours did, too. Mission accomplished.

    You guys will always be second class to The Mob.
     
  5. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    also, whats up with your foe being Real Salt Lake? Are you retarded or do you just not realize that team doesn't even play in the same league as yours?

    I met some pretty chill Miami supporters, all who recognize what we say and do are is in good fun and to build up this rivalry.

    But I can't say I'm unhappy with having not met you. You must be an embarrassment to your own fellow supporters.
     
  6. Antique

    Antique Member

    Nov 11, 2008
    the river of grass
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever. Thanks for coming over. See you again from time to time....;)
     
  7. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. drSoFlaFan

    drSoFlaFan DEFEND THE FORT!

    Feb 25, 2008
    Plantation, FL
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The stadium holds 11,000 but they closed down the home plate sections because it's too far away to see anything and they capped the tickets at 8k but if more fans came they opened up more sections.
     
  10. drSoFlaFan

    drSoFlaFan DEFEND THE FORT!

    Feb 25, 2008
    Plantation, FL
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They should open those sections up if they can fill them.
     
  11. ckh1

    ckh1 New Member

    Jul 19, 2009
    Dubai
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    what? still can't hear you URINALCAKE! Just like at the game!
    Congrats on a sellout at the basebal field lastnight though!
    LOL
     
  12. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Miami should close some more sections, since you can't fill them. Right?

    I think I'm done with the MLS to Miami talk. Here is what a real supporter section looks like:

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  13. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. drSoFlaFan

    drSoFlaFan DEFEND THE FORT!

    Feb 25, 2008
    Plantation, FL
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Houlihan's Stadium looked like those pictures in 1996 then MLS would probably still be in Tampa. Likewise for South Florida if Lockhart was bathed in Strikers' red and gold in 1998. Massive marketing f*** ups in both cities coupled with crappy or no ownership sunk MLS in Florida the first time. D2 success, or lack thereof, shouldn't weigh much in MLS giving both areas a second chance. Both cities were short-changed the first go round and deserve another shot.

    Again good job selling out the first real pro soccer game in Tampa in nearly a decade and the first Rowdies game since 1993. That should be expected. Now keep it up. See you on July 4th.
     
  15. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with you on why the teams were folded. However, I have to disagree on your point that D2 success shouldn't weigh much in future decisions to award either of our cities MLS.

    What better barometer can you have as to the potential level of success a MLS franchise might have? I guess you have to force this point because the Miami FC front office is failing all of South Florida, resulting in an average of 1k so far this year at your home games.

    Obviously attendance isn't the be all end all on the matter. But solid and steady support for soccer should be. Teams like the Sounders didn't make waves when they were in D2, but the under currents of support were there. Cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Portland and Montreal all have proven through good D2 support that MLS is viable there.

    Tampa is doing the same thing. Proving MLS is viable here by putting asses in seats at a pro soccer level.

    Sure bring up the Union, and how they are an example of a city being rewarded a team without prior D2 success. If you guys can recreate what the Sons of Ben pulled off, then more power to you. But most of us realize that won't ever, ever happen in Miami. Selling the American brand of soccer in South Florida isn't easy for a reason.

    But face the facts. Seattle, Portland, Toronto, Vancouver and now Montreal. All successful D2 programs/cities. Something Miami is years from being, even IF the re brand to the Strikers is successful.
     
  16. FCTBRowdies

    FCTBRowdies New Member

    Apr 12, 2010
    Tampa
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just to note. The section that are empty are because they sit too far from the field, so they close it off. It was not a complete sellout. But REALLY close.
     
  17. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ummm.. not true. Toronto was lucky to get 1,000 at a game. And Seattle was a mid-range "success", around 4,000 or so at a game. Nothing like they both get in MLS now. And Nothing like Portland, Vancouver and Montreal continue to get (they start a new MLS paradigm, be successful in the lower levels, pay $30 million, get a first division team - its North American promotion at its best).
     
  18. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was a sellout according to the capacity they were shooting for after closing off the sections behind home plate.
     
  19. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmm, wasn't aware Toronto's D2 attendance was this bad. Although you were way off on Miami's inaugural match attendance, so maybe I should google for myself. ;)

    4k average for D2 however is pretty good, especially if it is consistent and is in line with the club's goals at that time.

    Yup, and I'd take this any day if it means Tampa gets into MLS.
     
  20. Antique

    Antique Member

    Nov 11, 2008
    the river of grass
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Outstanding! Keep up the good work...:)

    It seems that to get into MLS bring mucho $$$, a solid looking ownership individual or group, and a reasonable stadium or a plan for a SSS. If Tampa can muster that they should stand a chance, if NYC #2 doesn't beat us all to it 1st...;)...I still feel that MLS has to grow larger than 20 teams. If so, I do believe that both of the abandoned Florida cities stand a good chance of returning to the league.
     
  21. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ya I don't believe MLS will stop completely at 20 teams. They might slow expansion way down, which would make sense. And only expand when it makes sense to do so. I also don't believe NYC will get a second team before a southeast team does. It might happen at the same time, but not before.

    At least we all better hope not :(
     
  22. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what we had Saturday night is going to turn heads, for sure. Maintaining that will be the test though.

    No matter what, we have taken the first step towards proving MLS is viable here and this town is a soccer town after all.
     
  23. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back to what's relevant:

    Update:

    In addition to New York, Garber has mentioned a desire to return to Florida. The Miami bid two years ago seemed promising as it was backed by FC Barcelona along with businessman Marcelo Claure, the CEO of Brightstar Communications and the owner of FC Bolivar in Bolivia. In recent discussions about expansion, Garber has cited Florida, but not a specific city.

    The plans of the nascent North American Soccer League could also have an impact on MLS’s expansion decisions. The backer of St. Louis’ 2008 bid, Jeff Cooper, is the chief architect of the new planned Division II league, along with Traffic, a major South American sports marketing agency that owns the FC Miami team.

    http://www.phillysoccernews.com/team...rticle_id=4912

    So I guess Garber was paying attention to the attendance in Tampa, a week ago he said S. Florida now no specific city.

    So you tell me who Garber would pick:

    A team that has committed ownership, great fan support and a SSS in the near future or a city where he has conflict with Traffic, no fan support and no plans for the future.

    The pick is Tampa hands down.
     
  24. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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