Mexico's new coach

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Deleted USer, Oct 22, 2002.

  1. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    lavolpe wil be the new coach...

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  2. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Is it official?
     
  3. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    pretty much
     
  4. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
  5. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I guess Hugo will be pissed. Seems kind of late in the day to announce Lavolpe hiring.
     
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  6. EvilRick

    EvilRick New Member

    Jun 4, 2000
    Guadalajara
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Looks like Lebrija still calls the shots!
     
  7. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Not as long as Wau/Soccermania is there...
     
  8. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    It seems as if the FMF is still not in the Same page. While it was obvious that one side (Televisa) wanted Bianchi another (Tv Azteca) wanted Lavolpe. As we have seen in the past when this happens the Selecion Nacional suffers.
     
  9. Martin Cutler

    Martin Cutler New Member

    Sep 30, 2002
    San Diego
    Yes I agree Various Styles. The warring factions only cause trouble. In my opinion this is a major, major mistake by Mexico. Lavolpe isn't a bad coach but he's nothing special. Bianchi, however is.

    The novela like battles in the press between Lavolpe and Hugo Sanchez will be interesting though.
     
  10. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Ye who enter here Abandone all Hope

    The Warring Factions in the FMF are no longer between the TV stations. Now we have Alberto De La Torre (Atlas) and Lebrija (Toluca) along with Burillo Azcaraga who is currently out of the picture. Its a Three even four man Tug of War. Obviously TV Azteca has decided to back the Lebrija/De La Torre regime.

    It is no Coincidence that the last two National team coaches Meza and Lavolpe have both worked in Toluca and Atlas. We were lucky to have Burillo Azcaraga who brought in el Vasco Aguirre when Meza had driven the national team into the ground. Now that Burillo Azcaraga abandoned the FMF what i am now wondering is who will replace Lavolpe in case he fails ???

    It is for certain that Hugol will critizise Lavolpes every loss, every bad decision. Is this not how Lapuente took Boras job leading to France 98. As much as i like Hugo i still dont think he is ready to take over the National Team much less if the team is in a critical qualifying condition like last time around.. We might have Aguirre to bail the TriColores out if such a situation were to arise but at that point the plans for continuation and long term process seem pointless.
     
  11. Don Boppero 3000

    Don Boppero 3000 DNALMQNLGLLMX!

    Jan 15, 2001
    National Museum of Mexican Art
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So what type of problem will arise if lavolpe becomes the coach??
     
  12. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    bopper78

    Lavolpe is the new coach. Just think about Hugo and how he can affect the media which in turn affects the fans. Remeber Lapuente/Bora.
     
  13. Don Boppero 3000

    Don Boppero 3000 DNALMQNLGLLMX!

    Jan 15, 2001
    National Museum of Mexican Art
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm not familar with the bora/lapuente fiasco. But I assume that it's has something to do with player selection.
     
  14. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    bopper78

    When Bora was the National Team coach there was a heavy pro Lapuente campaign from Televisa. Every time the Tri Color played Lapuente would be interviewed and he would critise the way the team was playing and why certain players where not in the team. Lapuente even claimed that Hermosillo who was the leading goalscorer at the time should not be absent from the National Team. Funny thing is when Lapuente took over the National Team he never called up Hermosillo.


    While Lapuente did not do a bad job at France 98. I feel that the team would have done better under Bora because there would have been more player continuation. When Lapuente came in he droped out many key players that had been playing good. What was the point of bringing in Raul Rodrigo Lara, Jorge Campos and Luis Garcia. Reminds me of last years Worldo Cup when Luis Hernandez and once again Jorge Campos were called in the last minute. The way i see it History is only repeating Itself.
     
  15. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    So the Mexican coach is a guy who has won 1 title in 20 years and who constantly has the best team until the liguilla where he tanks constantly. Expect another Meza but I really am hoping that doesn't happen and wish Lavolpe all the luck for the TRI's sake.
     
  16. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Les hubiera convenido mas Carlito!
     
  17. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    From the TV Azteca web site -

    "En cuanto a la declinación del argentino Carlos Bianchi, De la Torre explicó que agotó las últimas instancias para que hubiera sido el técnico del tricolor y hasta el final tuvo una conversación vía telefónica de hasta tres horas misma que resultó, obviamente, improductiva."

    Sounds to me they really wanted Bianchi and just could not come to terms.
     
  18. Martin Cutler

    Martin Cutler New Member

    Sep 30, 2002
    San Diego
    Hugo has already started in on Lavolpe! Check this out:

    " Hugo Sánchez, el mejor futbolista mexicano del siglo XX, manifestó hoy que está molesto por el nombramiento del argentino Ricardo Lavolpe como seleccionador de México y advirtió que los directivos "se arrepentirán toda la vida" de esta decisión.

    "Ha sido una decisión controvertida, se van a arrepentir toda la vida. Nunca debió ser candidato", declaró Hugo Sánchez,"

    Who needs to watch telenovelas when you have Hugo y Lavolpe!!!
     
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  19. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Where's Bianchi?

    Whatever happened to Bianchi?

    I thought he had the position sealed.
     
  20. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    "Es una bomba de tiempo que estallará en cualquier momento. Porque nadie trabajará a gusto. Los directivos estarán bajo presión, la afición estará bajo presión, los medios estarán bajo presión y, al primer revés, me pedirán". Hugo Sanchez
     
  21. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sounds like the Vulcans against the Federation over there.

    A shame that big business, in the form of telecommunication giants have an almost unethical influence on the national team.
     
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  22. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Guys, i hate to go against the grain here, but the ball was on Bianchi's side. HE just fumbled the ball. He got greedy and started to throw numbers in there

    For those who think Lebrija put him in, WRONGGGG. Lebrija lost power. Plain and simple.

    For those who think De La Torre put him in, WRONGGGG. De La Torre is starting to make a lot of enemies. This 5 man committee should tell you that. Meaning they dont trust the FMF president. I know De La Torre got criticism for even talking about NIKE and Scolari and such. Thats just a conflict of interest. Hello, De La Torre is Atlas' president. Doesnt Atlas use Nike?

    Burrillo on the other hand still has some power. His departure from the CSN was nothing more than a tactical move. How else can you run the CSN and have rights to the national team. WAU and Soccermania are part of Grupo Pegaso. Can you say a conflict of interest. DOnt you think Burrillo would catch heat if he were to set up a match using his companies. So he sets up his cousins in LA and Arizona... what a crock of Bullshyt. Wau Media belongs to him. He is not fooling me. But, I will say this about Burrillo, he is an exceptional business man. He knows that a winning product sells and that is why I think he did want to go for Bianchi.

    Bianchi screwed up. He was asking for more?

    What more did he want?

    Facts are:

    He was going to be within the top five best paid coaches in the world.

    Was going to be able to bring in his assistant coaches (who ever he wanted)

    Free house

    Bonuses

    Control of the national team and U23.

    So whats the problem???

    Could it be he felt offended that they interviewed Scolari and felt that the FMF was trying pay him less. If you can bring in Scolari (a coach that has won a World Cup) its because you have money to throw around. I think he felt that he was being short changed.

    Will he get just as good a salary? I dont think so. THe FMF payed the second highest salary. THe first is the Sven (England)


    Regardless if the FMF has the money or not to pay him the best salary in the world.... I still dont think they should...afterall...what has he done for mexico? Should he get a good salary and go from there...? Absolutely.... after all...bonuses were part of the plan.
     
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  23. MurderCityDevil

    MurderCityDevil New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Arizona/SLRC
    Hugo should shut the f up...

    Hugo pretends he loves the Mexican Team, but his pronouncements are throwing dirt on the team before it is even formed. He should be supportive and swallow his pride, if what he thinks will happens does, he still should keep quiet. If Lavolpe is very successful, Hugo is gonna look like a fool.

    I like Lavolpe's style. He is offensive and gives no excuses. His teams are always great, fun to watch, and if the Mexican league was set up as the European leagues, he would have been champion many more times. He knows how to use the young people, (look at Atlas) and the unbelievable success he had, he brought up Rafa Marquez, let's not forget that. (in addition to Osorno, M. Mendez, Chato, Zepeda, Pardo, etc...)

    I will confess I am biased (Atlas is my team) but Lavolpe is different. I am excited to see what kind of team he constructs.
     
  24. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Re: Hugo should shut the f up...

    Ricardo Lavolpe? Are we talking about the same one?

    The one i am talking about tells reporters to go to hell, got into a fist fight with Lara, was about to start a fight with Blanco. The one that always has an excuse for something.

    That lavolpe? ;)
     

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