MEXICO vs HAITI (Gold Cup Quarterfinals)

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  1. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Game is Sunday at 7:00 PM EDT.

    Isn't much of this Haiti team the same players from the Olympic Qualifier we played against them last year? I keep hearing much of the same names during broadcasts of their games in this Gold Cup. I know they gave the Nads some problems, but I don't think we will have much of a challenge against them.

    Talk away.
     
  2. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We should be able to deal with them quite easily. I think another good showing will calm a lot of nerves out there. I'm really not too familiar with the Haitian team.
     
  3. ElRebañoSagrado

    Apr 25, 2009
    Mexico
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Three of the players from the Olympic Qualifiers are on Haiti's Gold Cup squad.
    And I believe all three have started for Haiti in the GC (defender Ednerson Raymond, froward Fabrice Noel, and goalkeeper Peterson Occenat).
     
  4. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Well I know that midfielder Sampuer and forward Saint-Preux are on this roster and played vs USA were also on the Olympic qualifer game against us.
     
  5. TallTowerMan

    TallTowerMan Member+

    Apr 8, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    This will be the last game I see before I head off to Japan.....In FTW.
     
  6. TheBigSleaZy

    TheBigSleaZy New Member

    Jun 12, 2007
    New Orleans
    Mexico has not progressed that far to take any opponent lightly.

    There are a couple of things that I would like to see improve, namely the tendency to make such poor unhurried passes in midfield. I counted at least 3 passes from Torrado that were not only not on the mark but practically given to the opposing player. Torrado is not the only guilty party. The poorest passes in midfield are routinely made under little or no pressure. WTF?

    The other trend and this I can attribute to Aguirre's arrival is the tendency to play the corners short. I would be willing to wager that more than half of Mexico's corner kicks of late are of the short variety.

    Does this mean that Aguirre is conceding the other team's height as an excuse for not crossing it into the box more often or a real ack of creativity?

    It just bugs me when I see it.
     
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  7. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  8. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I don't blam em for the short corners. Everything else about the Mexican player is short. Plus, they don't have someone like Rafa or Borg back in the day- those guys could really make something happen in the air.

    Your spot on about the passes though.
     
  9. PARS

    PARS Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I am not too concerned about the corners, or I should say, it does not bother me too much. You can't teach height.

    The passing does worry me, this was our bread and butter not too long ago, good passing, which leads to ball control, which leads to pace control... But I still think this can be improved with practice. Perhaps there are other intangibles, like pressure, which are making the team less precise.

    But what really worries me is the amount of backwards passes. Hate all you want on Osorio/Salcido, but in 20 minutes either of these has more forward passes than what I have seen out of "El Gringo". It seems like the whole team is quick to pass backwards. There is nothing wrong with passing backwards, but I at least would like for them to try or get some looks at other options. It is not like we are playing Brazil and the score is 2-0 in our favor. I know there are other factors here, CONCACAF teams tend to shell up and wait, (and it was seen against Guadalupe who didn't and Mexico flowed slightly better). But still, if we can't control against these teams...

    /p
     
  10. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  11. Wiso

    Wiso Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Phoenix
    Club:
    Club León
    we scored off the corners guys,

    let's do short corners against TALL experienced teams. But against inexperienced Caribbean teams, I think we can score more often.
     
  12. invisible_shadow

    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    What I think will happen.

    Mexico will have control of the game.Haiti will play a 4-5-1 and do nothing but defend.Late in the game,we get some late goals.

    Every team in this region has been doing this against Mexico.So it will come as no surprise to me.
     
  13. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Subs to Bunker Copa 09.
     
  14. Cujo1126

    Cujo1126 New Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hatti probably won't give you too many problems.

    The US outplayed Hatti with a bunch of 5th stringers so I can't see any reason to worry too much.
     
  15. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    not sure they were outplayed. the score was 2-2.

    but i agree with mexico's likely dominance of this haiti outfit.
     
  16. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Especially since the US tied it up at like the 90th minute.
     
  17. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I dont' think Aguirre and Carrillo will dabble with the lineup too much. Although, the delantero situation is where the controversy is at as not sure which of the three he will team up between Bravo, Guille and Vela. Pretty sure Sabah, despite his goals (2), won't be a starter. I would save Vela as a sub once Bravo has had a bit of time to run at the defenses and/or Guille starts showing fatigue. I also think Israel Castro has won the starting gig from Noriega so he will be teaming up with Torrado. And Medina has beat out Jagger as well so he and Gio will be the outside Mids.

    I liked the patience they showed in teh first half against the French colonials so I hope that continues as well against the Haters.
     
  18. Carcacha

    Carcacha Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I think I posted something similar in the Vela thread but I dont think the guy should start this game unless he is 110% and is kickin everyone's ass in training. I expect Sabah and/or Bravo to start based on the decent performances these 2 have had. Who knows how in-form Franco may be, but I really expect him to be a sub.

    I think Norriega is a little too inexperienced to be paired with Torrado in the middle. We need someone smarter, more experienced and a better passer to offset Torrado's defeciencies....and I think Israel Castro > Norriega
     
  19. Chivasporas

    Chivasporas Member

    Mar 31, 2006
    Dallas, Tx
    so whos going to the game? i bought my tickets already, the good thing is i wont have to pay for parking and wait in traffic since i live walking distances from the stadium.
     
  20. Blue_Demon

    Blue_Demon Member+

    Aug 20, 2006
    TX
    Club:
    Club León
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm thinking about it. You can still get decent seats (behind the goals) for $25 if you do the family pack. Have to balance the check book and see if the trip to Houston didn't ruin me for the rest of the month.

    If I go, can I park at your house? :)
     
  21. Wiso

    Wiso Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Phoenix
    Club:
    Club León
    so the $100 seats..

    no one is buying them.. get some cheap seats and move down. Try and look for the HAiti section behind the player's benches. They always reserve a section for the apposing team.
     
  22. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I concur here although from what I've seen so far I like Noriega better than Torrado. Torrado has tendency to get beat alot so he makes up for it by being a brute and/or giving away freekicks. So pairing Castro with Noriega would still leave us with that outside shooting threat from Castro.
     
  23. srchmaster

    srchmaster Member+

    Mar 3, 2007
    home
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I just gave the fmf $132 (Two tickets). It's the best decision i've made in a while. :D I've never seen the Tri live ( saw a boring clasico at azteca and a boring America Tigres at azteca).
     
  24. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I thought about going but I think I will be working now :(
     
  25. Carcacha

    Carcacha Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    Yeah, ideally I think we rather have a noriega/castro combo, but I dont think Torrado is goin anywhere until he dies

    Seriously
     

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