Mexican reports on the USA - Mexico game http://www.laopinion.com/deportes/futbol_mexicano/?rkey=00000000000003195430 When Hugo called up the Brazilian Zinha for the USA game, the only reaction we had was: “What!?” ..it seems like yesterday (Oct 12 2005) when Hugo declared “I want to be very clear that in Mexican futbol we do not want naturalized players – neither in the national team nor in club teams. For clubs teams, they should count as foreigners, and for the national team, we just want pure Mexicans.” … Why has Hugo done this? Is he that desperate to end the almost 9 year streak of not beating the USA away that he thinks Zinha will solve the problem? ------- Seems like Hugo is reversing his own words to try to beat the US – maybe this game matters more than he wants to admit to it. More articles to come.
Zinha is an excuse to lower the polemic of calling a naturalized player after all the shit he gave them. This, to call up his boy from Pumas Leandro Agusto when people accept it. Zinha won't be called up much thereafter he is using him.
That's true...he's letting Sinha take all the heat, too bad cuz i think the NT needs more a player like Sinha than Leandro.
I would not count La Opinion as a Mexican report being that it is a Los Angeles based Newspaper and some of their writers are not even Mexican.
How terrible -- having journalists not even from the same country!! Oh the horror!! P.S. -- Moderator? That's a sign of the apocalpyse.
One huge difference, Edgar is Mexican by birth and blood. The Mexican constitution states that if your parents are Mexican, you are are automatically Mexican at the time of birth no matter what country you are born in. That is the reason why Chivas (who only plays Mexicans) has some players that were born in the US, but from Mexican parents. Hugo is referring to players that have to meet certain requirements to become a citizen and are not Mexicans by birth.
Believe it or not, we have that too. We also have Jus Soli that if your born on American soil (Embassey's are included) you are constitutionally a American Citizen with all rights and privledges.
What about when your parents are not Mexican, and you grew up in Uraguay, but you were born in Mexico.
As in Nery, then he is Mexican by birth. So he could play for Chivas. I know what route you are trying to go, and if you say he shouldn't be playing with us. But the truth is, Nery was born in Mexico and had citizenship in two other countries, but choose to play with Mexico.......
http://www.esmas.com/deportes/futbol/701087.html MEXICO TO END USA’ S SUPREMACY CONCACAF qualifiers started last week – Mexico and USA have not started their qualifiers though, but they will start to measure their powers in this game that is not a friendly. It is no secret that USA has a hegemony over Mexico in the last years, since 2000 USA has won 9 of the 12 matches and just in the last match el Tri lost in the Gold Cup final and with that, they lost the ticket to the Confederations cup as well. A win is required, Hugo S. coached in 3 of the 12 games, in fact, under his belt started the streak, in June 2000 with el Tri Puma, that officially represented the Mexican team, and which they lost 3-0. Hence, Hugo S. called up all Mexicans that play at the top level in Europe, only missing were R. Osorio, G. Franco and A Guardado due to injuries. This game will bring back naturalized players, Sinha, another sign that Hugo S. wants the best they have to break the bad streak. In fact, Mexico has not won in the US since March 1999, in a 2-1 win at the USA Cup. … An important fact is that Mexico has not won a friendly match since June 2 of last year, a 4-0 win against Iran. Since, Mexico has lost 0-1 to Paraguay, 0-1 to Colombia, 1-3 to brazil, tied 2-2 with Nigeria, and 2-3 to Guatemala
http://www.oem.com.mx/esto/notas/n582730.htm … Bofo Bautista “knows of the rivalry with the US, they are games where no one wants to lose, where you can not give any advantage.” Is it a classic? “Of course” he added. “However it is by far revenge. We would have to win in the same conditions that the US beat us to enjoy any kind of revenge. In the meantime, lets take this as an important game, that of course, we can not lose, but as far as revenge, no way.” This is what they say about Donovan: Memo Ochoa: “He is a guy that talks a lot, he is very respectable in his manner, to each their own. He wants to score against me, but I will do my part so our team will do well.” Sinha: “He is not very liked by many people. We have to put this to a side, play futbol and win.” Adolfo Bautista: “He is a player that loves to instigate for the games. We should not let this influence us, and bring it to the field.” Gerardo Torrado: “He is a person that is not liked because of his commentaries, but the best way to retaliate is in the field.” ----- Good to see their players know they will never get revenge until they beat us at the world cup.
Similar statements from an American coach would be rightly castigated as xenophobic and racist, especially if the player in question were Mexican-born.
Seriously, if an American coach ever said something like that, it would be a national outrage and he would be fired immediately.
aint that the bloody truth, good call. So not only is the mexican coach a biggot but he is a racist as well. He'll get whats coming to him tomorrow.
http://www.cronica.com.mx/nota.php?id_nota=346027 La Cronica EL TRI LEFT WITHOUT A GOAL? With the little prince injured (Andres Guardado), el tri loses the only player able to score against the US in the last 10 macthes outside of Mexico In fact, Guardado scored against the US in their last match, June 2007 in Chicago. That goal interrupted a long Mexican streak against the US in games outside of Mexico, and gave Guardado a feat that almost no other active Mexican player has accomplished. Other than Guardado, only Cuauhtemoc Blanco is an active player that could score against the US, but since that goal of Blanco it has been a long time – it was in Gold Cup 1996. Among others of the very few that have scored against the US are Borguetti and Sinha, however they scored in Mexico, in Azteca stadium. ..And the most known stats is that it’s been almost 9 years since Mexico beat the US at their home, in which el tri accumulates 9 straight games without a win against their most hated neighbor, including 3 losses that had Hugo Sanchez as coach.. 9 zeros in 10 games: 11-jun-2000 Nva. Jersey Copa USA 0-3 25-Oct-2000 Los Angeles Amistoso 0-2 28-Feb-2001 Columbus Eliminatoria 0-2 3-abr-2002 Denver, Col. Amistoso 0-1 17-jun-2002 Jeonju, Corea Copa del Mundo 0-2 8-may-2003 Houston Amistoso 0-0 28-abr-2004 Dallas Amistoso 0-1 3-sep-2005 Columbus Eliminatoria 0-2 7-feb-2007 Carson Amistoso 0-2 27-jun-2007 Chicago Copa Oro 1*-2 Donovan is now the executioner of the Mexican team. With the 4 goals he has against Mexico, he tied the previous all time scorer in these games, Aldo Donelli, who also has 4 goals, and who only played against Mexico once. Donelli was the decisive player against Mexico in May 1934 in Rome, in which it decided which team would represent the whole region in World cup 1934. In that game, USa beat Mexico 4-2, with all 4 goals by Donelli. Hence, Donovan is reaching new records, that are not even necessary to show the special affection that he has for el tri. ----- These stats are amazing – I didn’t realize only those few active players could score against us. Funny stuff about Donovan keeps on surfacing – gotta love, keep it up Donovan
Xenophobic, yes ...... but racist? What did race have to do with his statement? Despite their protestations to the contrary, being Mexican is no more of a race than being Spanish or French or Portuguese. Having said that, yes ............ an American who said that would be destroyed in the press, and I find it funny that the Mexican fans on bs and the Mexican players themselves are so often whining about how badly mistreated they are by American players and Americans in general, when their attitudes about "foreigners" are seemingly far worse than ours.
I wouldn't go that far. Mexico has different laws. Mexico has a different history w/ the game. Mexico has a different history regarding immigration. Mexico has a different history, period. They were a series of powerful city-states/tribes that were brutally colonized and/or betrayed by a foreign empire (Spain). That colonization nightmare still wreaks havoc today. Keep in mind that Mexico fought a revolution -- actually... 4 separate rebellions that united in the common theme to rid the country of a Euro-snob dictator who denigrated the ppl and placated foreign, white investors. That desire to placate Europeans has remained incredibly important in modern Mexico, even leading to a massacre of student protesters in 1968 and subsequently was the site of an active, silent dirty war to silence activists fighting against that anti-Mexican impulse in the government. Bottom line: this is an extraordinarily complex issue that cannot be looked at through a foreign lens. Our experience in the US simply cannot be a point of comparison.
http://www.laopinion.com/deportes/futbol_mexicano/?rkey=00000000000003202970 WAKE UP MEXICO Now. No more timelines. It’s time for Mexico to wake up against the US and start to recover the supremacy of the region. The Mexican players agree with this, in face of their match against the US tomorrow. They add: forget about the obsession of outscoring the US, just win the game and keep control. Pavel Pardo: “We have had good games against the US, one of them was the God Cup final. Unfortunately we could not control the game and we lost. These are lessons to learn from.” “The US always waits for us to attack, they know we have the responsibility and they defend and counter well. I think that sour experience will help us this time.” “If we are up 1-0 we should manage the game with the intention to win with that scoreline. In other words, we should not despair in scoring a second goal, but leave it to them to try to tie.” For Guillermo Ochoa a win is urgent and necessary. “There is a debt we have with our fans, a debt we have with the fans that live in the US as well who need a win.”
Yes a xenophobe. An american coach saying this would be forced to restate their comments. You are right that mexican fans would complain if an american did this, yet they are fine with their coach doing this.
Yeah, those hundreds of years of slavery in Mexico and genocide are something that people in the US can never relate to ............ oh, wait a minute, my bad.