Post-match: Mexican Press Reports

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  1. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So who's Ax and who's Smash?

    And does that make Bill Crush?
     
  2. Namdynamo

    Namdynamo Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    We have beaten Mexico at the other age level in Mexico, as seen in others' posts, even though we very seldom played down there. If you read the US youth forum, the US U-17 have played there sometimes and have beaten Mexico's U-17 in unofficial games.

    I don't think it is a stretch to say that we already would have a win in Mexico already if we get to play them twice a year every year (even if we don't have 90% of the fans cheering for us almost every game like Mexico get here in the US).

    We don't have a win in Mexico not because we can't beat them there, it is because we don't have the opportunity to do so (once every 4 years). Mexico on the other hand...
     
  3. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Delaware County, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excellent point. We've played in Mexico a grand total of 4 times since 1994, and are 0-3-1 (with one of the losses coming in extra time). In that time span we're 1-0-1 on neutral turf (winning on PKs in the draw) and 11-3-4 on US soil (despite heavily pro-Mexico crowds for most of those games).

    In other words, they get 4.5 opportunities to beat us on US soil for every opportunity we get to beat them in Mexico.
     
  4. Dignan

    Dignan Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Granada
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whoa!

    Thats a bit of a major oversimplification. Context is essential. PC does not mean bad. I think in general its been a good thing. We should be concerend how our words might offend others. But like all things, even good, people take them to extremes and sometimes become fanatatical about it. Its the same thing with the liberal and conservative distinctions. Nothing wrong with the distinctions, but when people start using them to avoid an argument or make an intelligent point, yes I agree its a negative thing. Still that doesn't mean we discard the terms and just ignore it all together, anymore than say we don't try to be politically correct without stifling freedom of speech, expression, and a good butt whoopin of the Mexican national team.

    Look, I have not seen anyone of these boards suggest that Mexicans are somehow inferior to Americans racially, culturally, or in any other thing besides soccer. They are inferior to us in the quality of their national team, that is all.
     
  5. arsynic

    arsynic Red Card

    Jan 2, 2007
    Santa Barbara
    don't forget economy and literature
     
  6. arsynic

    arsynic Red Card

    Jan 2, 2007
    Santa Barbara
    Oh, we are also, in general, a taller people.
     
  7. JonfromVegas

    JonfromVegas Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    Las Vegas
    They have better Mexican food though, so it all evens out.
     
  8. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Salma Hayek - The Great Equalizer

    [​IMG]
     
  9. USArsnl

    USArsnl New Member

    Aug 4, 2006
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd do things to her that are illegal in certain parts of Mississippi and Alabama.
     
  10. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Parts?
     
  11. USArsnl

    USArsnl New Member

    Aug 4, 2006
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Mobile and Gulfport are a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
     
  12. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Ooooh. A lot of ppl would beg to differ. I'd give the US a slight edge.

    But Mexico takes the prize hands down when it comes to painting. It ain't even close.
     
  13. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is she your cousin?:D
    JK my friends to the south.
     
  14. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think our Mexican food is better than Mexico's.:rolleyes:
     
  15. SCBozeman

    SCBozeman Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    St. Louis
    Such as...? And if the name Frida Kahlo is on your fingertips, I think you've lost the debate.
     
  16. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Rivera, Siquieros, Tamayo, Orozco to name a few.

    And yes... Frida Kahlo is definitely up there as an elite painter. I don't know too many art critics who wouldn't consider her a genius.

    There's a museum right next to (in??) Chapultapec on 20th century/modern Mexican painting. Sick.
     
  17. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    she makes up for a lot of bad Mexican behavior.
     
  18. shinpath

    shinpath Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Shanghai, PR China
    Club:
    --other--
    It is still prepared by Mexicans no matter which side of the border you are on.
     
  19. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Not in the wanna-be fru-fru uber-gourmet Mexican restaurants. (Not that there's that many of them, fortunately/unfortunately.)
     
  20. arsynic

    arsynic Red Card

    Jan 2, 2007
    Santa Barbara
    lawling at gourmet mexican restaurants.
     
  21. SCBozeman

    SCBozeman Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    St. Louis
    A brief spasm of mid-century populism. Nice stuff. As is Grant Woods and Thomas Benton. Throw someone like Feininger in there, and the US matches up pretty well. And that isn't the American strong suit.

    I don't think he can really compare to the post-expressionists that the US gave birth to, but we may just have to disagree. Maybe not your taste, but certainly broader in quantity and quality.

    Well, many, actually.

    I thought you might be referencing more contemporary artists, I was not aware of. Kind of like saying the US is more successful at the WC than Mexico and referencing the '02 quarter-final. Yeah, the US might be better there, but the depth of performance is over the long haul.
     
  22. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but she's half Lebanese! Which makes her practically my cousin.

     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Which would make it legal in parts of Mississippi and Alabama.
     
  24. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Don't. They're quickly gaining steam in Mexico. Once they reach a certain level there and there's a certifiable haute cuisine, then it's inevitable that they will pass on over to the US.

    As they exist right now in the US, they're run by American chefs who tinker/mess w/ the character of the cuisine, filtering it through a French/nouveau cuisine lens and in the process stripping it of much of its essence.

    But just an fyi: Mexican cuisine is equally complex if not more so than French cuisine.
     
  25. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shouldn't have been a rimshot with this?

    *ba-doom-boom*
     

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