Pre-match: Meet the Poch: USMNT vs Panama (Oct 12) & USMNT @ Mexico (Oct 17)

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  1. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Apparently Tanner Tessmann is being called up.

    With Sargent, Wright, and Pepi in the group....................we've still got numbers at the striker position.

    I mean, we see 4-4-2 lineups above.
    Poch has already told us the two formations he's going to work on with the group are 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1. Maybe we'll see each formation in the window.
     
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  2. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Is anyone actually healthy?
     
  3. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017


    I'm amped for Vazquez. He hasn't torn Liga MX a new one, but he's def shown that he was ready to step up one level beyond MLS.
     
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  4. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Happy for Tessman. The other two are just a waste of time. Not tearing it up in Liga MX should translate to not getting called up to the national. Same goes for a guy trying to step up one level beyond MLS. Lots of levels between MLS and the USMNT.
     
  5. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interested to see which way Poch leans... but I don't see any logical reason why it would be a 4-4-2.
     
  6. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Unpredictability?
     
  7. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't know that I'd consider that logical... zigging when we expect a zag and when it doesn't suit the roster/personnel, that's pretty much opposite of reason to me.

    But... maybe? We'll see in a few days I guess.
     
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  8. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    This is Pochettino's first camp. He's a teacher type; I don't think we'll see choices geared to this specific camp that much compared to a broader plan.

    He has pretty commonly played a 442 in defense, but I think we're more likely to see a striker at winger than a real two striker system.
     
  9. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    He stated during his interview that he will use 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3.
     
  10. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Fossey still on the bike and he's been joined by Zack Steffen:

    1844780945309647046 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  11. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Do any of the likely starters play on sides that regularly run out a 4-4-2 anyway? Tillman and Pepi play in a typical Dutch 4-3-3, with Tillman featuring as both LWF and RCM at various times. CP is mostly a RAM in a 4-2-3-1. McKennie is RDM in a 4-2-3-1 these days. I think Norwich is mostly a 4-2-3-1 these days with Sarge at tip. Musah played at the LDM in his AC start, pretty sure and M'boro mostly play Morris there in a 4-2-3-1. RAaronson has been playing in the 10 in a 4-2-3-1.

    If Poch were inclined to run guys out in their most common club positions, we'd probably see:
    Pepi/Sarge
    Tillman(Wright) - Aaronson - Pulisic
    Morris/Musah - McKennie
    AR(Lund) - Trusty(Ream) - Robinson - Scally(Fossey)

    I think McKenzie and MRob are the only field players whose teams don't run out 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 variation - but both have played in a 4-man back plenty as well. But it's interesting that most of the team already plays on 4-2-3-1 formations. Does CP stay on the wing or get pushed back into the AM. I think he's more effective with a bit of width, but I, sadly, am not coaching. If CP does go to the 10, who moves to RWM? Will be interesting to see where we start out.
     
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  12. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    I'm going to my first Nats match in person Saturday! Weeee! Anybody know how early you need to arrive to get to see warm ups and stuff?
     
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  13. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the roster and without having seen training, this is my instinct too in terms of what makes "sense" for Poch... maybe Aaronson outside and Tillman inside.
     
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  14. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Check with the stadium. The usually come off of the field about a half our or hour before kickoff.

    Have a great time. Pulisic is a lighting bolt in person. Weston looks much more fluid and athletic in person as well.
     
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  15. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah - Malik has been in the 10 a little bit for PSV. Would not be a bad option. Even Wright-Tillman-Pulisic. I do hope CP stays wide. Haven't seen Wright play LW that much. Aaronson likes to come central a bit too much for my liking - I think that Milan's set up with Leao tending to stay wider give CP more room to play a hybrid AM from the right. Will be interesting to see. I fear CP gets pushed into the 10, but I'd like to see us not do that for a few games.
     
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  16. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think CP can be a 10 with these wide options, honestly. Would be shocked if Poch did that.

    He's just not a 10! He's killing it on the wing.
     
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  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Agree. An unbalanced 3 with CP allowed to come central and the opposite wing more touchline is a good look for him. Scally doesn't overlap as much as I'd like is the only downside here. When CP stands up his back just outside the 18 there is often a lot of room on the wing for a good overlap - Wes can do that, and Scally can too, but they're no Dest/ARob in that scenario.
     
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  18. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd get there to be in the stadium an hour before kick-off. Then you have time to beer up and enjoy warm-ups (which could be 45 minutes before kick-off). Have a good time!
     
  19. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Have fun. I usually get there an hour before.

    I saw Pulisic and co during the Summer in Hartford, CT.

    I'll be seeing them again this November in St. Louis.
     
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  20. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    CP got his pocket picked a few times too often for Milan in the center of the pitch. To be an effective 10, he might need to grow eyes in the back of his head.
     
  21. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Let us know when you get set up to take over the live pbp. Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:
     
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  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Your turn is coming.
     
  23. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    It came and went. Lol
     
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  24. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    All I'm looking for right now is more intensity and desire. Some more risk taking would be nice.
     
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  25. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably too late to call in new dudes, but if we did, and need MLSers/Liga MX to do so:

    Pulisic > Cowell
    Fossey > Jones
    McKennie > McGlynn
    No need to replace Steffen, Pepi
     

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