Media are Racists

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  1. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/3730616
    Thoughts?
     
  2. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    I don't know. I think the Williams sisters get plenty of good pub from the media. Sometimes being so good can create a backlash and some people will resent it. But the Williams sisters have had it good. Most in the media would say they are good for tennis.

    This guy talks too much. Can you imagine what he would have said if somebody had tried to stab one of his daughters like they did to Monica Seles?
     
  3. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Kentucky
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone check pockets and make sure. You have milk money.
     
  4. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is surprising.

    He tends not to mouth off usually until both of his daughters have been eliminated from a grand slam event.
     
  5. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    --other--
    They are racist in some ways, but Serena gets good publicity over here in England

    there is a section of the media that tends to be racist i agree but the Willaims sister get more good publicity than bad.
     
  6. !Bob

    !Bob Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    UK
    The reason they have made tennis boring is first based on the fact that they dominated the game. This kind of backlash often happens when people root for the underdog.

    Secondly is the fact that they are not the prettiest flowers in the bunch IMO. Sharapova on the other hand is (although I don't like her based on the third reason). When it comes to women's game at least, looks play a major part. Why do you think few people like Mauresmo?

    Thirdly is their attitude and behaviour. People like Sampras, Federed and Agassi (although I don't like Agassi either) have a down to earth attitude despite being amazingly good. Davenport is not particularly special by any means but she has a nice attitude and doesn't do the weird girly things the Williams sisters do. How many non-Aussies like Hewitt??

    So the reason for their unpopularity with the media goes to how the public view them and the media as usual chase the ratings. If they show Sharapova they are bound to get a bigger audience.

    However having said all that, I have personally not noticed this as the BBC at least has been more than fair in showing everyone (in particular the Brits while they were in it :D ). So I think Richie boy should leave his moaning to when it has at least got an element of truth to it!
     
  7. topcatcole

    topcatcole BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 26, 2003
    Washington DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's wrong. The sports media is NOT racist, but they are very sexist. Women's sports just do not sell papers the same way that men's sports do. And tennis? Let's be serious here. It's a great sport that I love to play but very few people follow it the way they do oh, say SOCCER!! (and when's the last time you saw women's soccer make a headline! The last time I remember it making a headline was when the US won the women's world cup, and the headline was "Woman Soccer Player Takes Off Top"!)

    Women's sports make headlines when the winner is hot. That is the definition of sexism in my book.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Richard's certifiable. And he's wrong. How the f*** can he argue with a straight face his girls have been shunned by the sports media?
     
  9. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dear Mr. Williams,

    Stop. Just... Stop.

    Please.

    Love,

    Tiger "Media Pariah" Woods
     
  10. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
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    Maybe not "flowers," but woohoo
     
  11. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Media" are racists? What the hell does that mean anyway?

    ****************. Anyway, If you were to do an analysis of a population, and then do an analysis of those working in the Electronic and Print media sector of that population, there is no way that you'd find that those Media Professionals would be more likely to have racist tendancies.

    The dude needs a serious ass-kicking. I hate stage-parents.
     
  12. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    What he said. Well, at least in spirit.
     
  13. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    Hmmm. I find Venus desirable because she's built like an Amazon. And Serena does exude sex appeal in an opulent sort of way.

    Still, I have to admit that if I'm the one in charge of the fantasy but I'm limited to just one tennis player, I'd choose the Russian girl (however you spell her name) over either.
     
  15. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Have you seen that beer commercial where a guy fantasizes about having two women and they turn out to be insufferable nags ("I need to work on my fantasies!")? With that caveat, my fantasy would involve both Williams sisters.
     
  16. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Just make sure you keep their daddy out of it.
     
  17. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Actually, I think they made tennis boring by turning the women's game more into what men's tennis has become: 2 people trading serves. Before th Williams sisters you saw some fairly good rallys in women's tennis. Now it's "Toss the ball up, swing and grunt, ace or fault" just like the men's game, and since they were dominate with that style every other female player had to either get on board or duke it out for whatever leftovers the Williams' left for them.

    Aren't the ratings for women's tennis consistently higher than those of the men's game, at least here in the US? Men's tennis is boring, and the Williams sisters play tennis like men.
     
  18. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Dammit, you've just ruined it for me.
     
  19. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both sisters have been favorably covered by the media; perhaps the media losing interest because that although the Williams sisters are athletic and accomplished, they are still ugly, in other words, not a racial issue at all, just a realistic one?
     
  20. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Women in tennis skirts...and fairly attractive ones these days....and the games are actually good now that Kornacova or whatever her name was isn't playing anymore. I don't think womens' ratings are going to lose to mens' anytime in the future. :)
     
  21. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    If Richard was talking about missing, kidnapped or killed black women, then he'd have a slightly better point.

    Since I'm his future son-in-law, I'll bring that up to him at Thanksgiving dinner. Once I decide which one of the two to marry, and which one to make my mistress. (Didn't say I planned to be a GOOD son-in-law.)
     
  22. !Bob

    !Bob Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    UK
    I will shed a few tears for you.
    A relationship with both? I will weep for you.
     
  23. Real Ray

    Real Ray Member

    May 1, 2000
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you remember these matches...well, that's really the problem isn't it? None of the finals were as good as what we saw yesterday. They just don't seem to bring out the best in each other when they play-a tough thing when your playing against you sister for sure. Especially Venus who never looks at ease playing Serena.

    A funny moment yesterday was the camera caught Davenport's mom at one point giving Richard the "cut it" sign with her hand as if she was telling him "enough!" He does make you cringe in that, "please spare the kids the humilation," kind of way.

    As for the other part of the boring equation, you can sum it up in one word: depth. Womens' tennis is very poor in that department. The 6-0, 6-1, walks in the parks that the top women get in the opening rounds, are not the staple in the men's game.
     
  24. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Apart from the incredibly obvious point that men will always root for the pretty girl in tennis, and the williams sisters only appeal to those who have a curious liking of muscle definition in their women, the fact that there is two of them makes their "domination" of the sport slightly misleading, as there are two chances of a williams sister winning. If there was only one of them, and two Sharapovas, people might find their dominance boring too.

    On second thoughts, if there were two Sharapovas I'd want them in every final. Every final there is, Woman's final, doubles final, the men's final, the FA Cup Final, you name it, I'd want them there.
     
  25. aloisius

    aloisius Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Croatia

    Men's tennis is great. Women's game is a comedy compared to it.

    That's like saying that women's basketball is better becuse there are no dunks
     

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