MD20: AC Cesena - AS Roma (Jan. 16th 2010) [R]

Discussion in 'AS Roma' started by DDR, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Seems like Ranieri might try a return to the old 4-2-3-1 formation this weekend. With Totti being suspended in Coppa Italia it seems Borriello will be rested. We should see a classical attacking half:

    Totti
    Vucinic - Perrotta - Menez​

    The big question for Ranieri seems to be the central midfield pairing, as Pizarro isn't available. They speculate Greco to be favored over Simplicio at the moment.

    All in all an interesting experiment, shame about Pizarro not being around as he is the engine that drives the 4-2-3-1.
     
  2. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Uhhh, I dont know if I like this.

    I have lost faith in CR.

    I somewhat want to go back in time ans slap Sensi when she didnt sell to Soros.
     
  3. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Just imagine what could have been. Spalletti given the resources to take it to the next level, having lost the title on the last day heading into the new season with a proper transfer market and motivated to make that next jump.
     
  4. porreca

    porreca Member+

    Jan 17, 2010
    UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I don't want to lose faith in Ranieri, though my faith supply on him is running dangerously low; Simply by having the squad we have this year under Unicredit with Borriello et al, I'm sure Spalletti would've won the Scudetto tat year, and we would be top of the league right now.
     
  5. Forzaabruzzo

    Forzaabruzzo Member+

    Apr 19, 2006
    It's not like Spalletti really had "worse" squads at his disposal though. As much as Ranieri frustrates the hell out of me, we gotta give him some credit for what this squad managed to achieve last season, with what little they actually had to work with.
     
  6. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    You got to be kidding me ... Spalletti got Loria, Guberti, and no strikers. Ranieri got Burdisso, Luca Toni, followed by Adriano, Simplicio, and Borriello. Heck Ranieri even got a mediocre backup for Riise, when Spalletti was forced to play Cassetti there when Tonetto was unavailable. Ranieri also had a season where Inter pissed away a 10+ point lead, along with the crumbling of key adversaries (Genoa, Fiorentina, and Juventus).

    Ranieri accomplished zilch last season, he played Spalletti's team and tactics and they did the work for him. After his initial experimentation, I remember a dreadful match where he changed shape 5 times, he settled on Spalletti's formation and it did the rest. Look at all the great matches last season and you will see tactically the hand of Spalletti. Through Pizarro and Vucinic, or through the runs and insertions of Brighi/Perrotta playing in the 4-2-3-1 trequartista role. The only thing Ranieri provided was the motivation Spalletti lost after several years of not being listening to in the summer market.

    What the heck has Ranieri accomplished. Where is his stamp on the team, this year where he's tried to make it his? His failed 4-4-2 that took 3 months to figure out wasn't working? Perrotta and Vucinic as wingers? Perrotta in a flat midfield line last weekend, instead of having him push up and pin back Palombo? How many games has he started out completely wrong, and had to attempt to correct?

    The only thing Ranieri did was discover Julio Sergio and teach the defense the offside trap, well except for the donkey Motta. Offensively the team has been degrading under Ranieri. We score less goals, and less players score goals. In my opinion there is simply no comparing the two, they are leagues apart as far as coaches go. There's a reason why Ranieri hasn't won squat.
     
  7. Iaquinta

    Iaquinta Member

    Jan 8, 2007
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I couldn’t have said it better myself. The Juve situation makes me feel (slightly) better about the state of our current team.
     
  8. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Rfc7ktVBk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Rfc7ktVBk[/ame]

    Speaking of Luciano, from the days we used to play football. Now I wait 70 minutes to see Borriello score a stupid Inzaghi goal.

    That it's a Perrotta goal just exemplifies the difference between the two managers. Perrotta would have never in a million year become the player he's been had he had Ranieri as a coach instead of Luciano Spalletti. A mediocre career as a low central midfielder is all he would have gotten, compared to accolades of praise he received when he was at top level with Luciano.
     
  9. zako

    zako Member+

    May 11, 2006
    Tbilisi, Georgia
    Club:
    AS Roma
    I want to cry seing those one touch multiple pass combinations we used to play :(
     
  10. Henchag

    Henchag Member+

    Aug 26, 2009
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I recall when we won 7 - 0 vs Catania under Spalletti, we put a show ..What a show it was.. pure entertainment.

    Cesena will be without Nagatomo, who is in ASIA cup.But they have everybody else available. Its not going to be easy, as we never do well away from olimpico.
     
  11. tmontana52

    tmontana52 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Philly- the 215
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Agree.. defently got a little emotional watching that:p

    But in this game i am really looking foward to seeing how Juan responds... Will he:

    -play like the champion he is and be flawless

    -still be damaged from last game and commit errors again

    Defently going to be keeping my eye out for this and also cant wait to see the old 4-2-3-1, I would put Taddei on the right wing however and put Menez as trequartista..

    Totti
    Vuci - Menez - Taddei
    DDR - Perrotta​
     
  12. decola

    decola Member+

    Sep 12, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Menez will go to the right side anyway, there's no point sticking him at treq.
     
  13. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Yeah, plus I got a craving to see the Perrotta of the old. Covering like 10,000 kilometers per game.
     
  14. tmontana52

    tmontana52 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Philly- the 215
    Club:
    AS Roma
    LOL that's a Calabrese for ya:D... Although i might get death threats for saying this.... do you think we should rest Menez this match?

    I love Jeremy but i kind of wanna see the good old 2007/08 Roma just for old times sake..

    Totti
    Vuci - Perrotta - Taddei​
     
  15. zako

    zako Member+

    May 11, 2006
    Tbilisi, Georgia
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Taddei has lost >50% of his speed, so I don't think he's up to the game
     
  16. iGiallorossi

    iGiallorossi Member+

    Oct 4, 2010
    N.Ireland
    Club:
    AS Roma
    ...watching that video is heartbreaking
     
  17. Henchag

    Henchag Member+

    Aug 26, 2009
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  18. zako

    zako Member+

    May 11, 2006
    Tbilisi, Georgia
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Hope no-one gets injured today, especially in defense..hate the idea of seing baby Burdi (though he might have been better than Juan against Samp)
     
  19. Romanista89

    Romanista89 Member+

    Jun 8, 2010
    Glasgow, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Mexes will be back for the Lazio Coppa game. I thought Rosi was supposed to be starting today, I was excited to be seeing a flying fullback on each flank.
     
  20. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Hope Ranieri doesn't put me to sleep this afternoon.
     
  21. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Crap Doni is playing
     
  22. Henchag

    Henchag Member+

    Aug 26, 2009
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I have bad feeling for today.
     
  23. porreca

    porreca Member+

    Jan 17, 2010
    UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  24. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    My god what did Doni almost do? What a loser, how was this guy ever our starter.
     
  25. ShoelessMan

    ShoelessMan In vino veritas!

    Jan 25, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    does anyone have a better stream than the ones on atdhe.net? they're pretty terrible? any help would be much appreciated! thanks!
     

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