MD 33: AS Roma vs Verona

Ah, guess I was unaware of that. Hopefully it's just a heat of the moment thing and doesn't turn into a "thing".

 

There’s already signs Zaniolo has a big head/ bad attitude. When you come on as a substitute in the 60th minute you’ll be expected to have enough energy to help in defense. We’ll gain no favors by letting Zaniolos talent get to his head, he has plenty of weaknesses in his game still so it’s good that the coach is holding him accountable.

 

Yeah unlikely not a thing. Teammates can have words with each other on the pitch multiple times a game when they need it and now theres no fan noise its more evident but he needs calling out here..

I watched it back and he wasn't pressing from about 80 mins on. He was keen to go one way, forward but didn't seem interested getting back. When he takes on the ball and gets a shot away on the left he is being shouted at to get back to the right. All their play in the final 15 mins was down his side because of it. Fonseca is shouting at him to press again after that on his side and he half heartily does so but its already to late when the coach is shouting. Contrast to Perotti's position when he came on in the final few mins. Zaniolo should be a mirror but he was out of the picture most of the time.

When Villar took the yellow at the end everyone is back as a unit except Zaniolo who was 15 yards ahead so he decided not to listen right to the end. You have to play 2 ways especially when you come on in such a scenario. 2-1 up with 20 mins on you play for the team first and don't make a run you're not getting back for.

 

Do you forget that even under EDF he was gifted chance after chance but missed left right and centre. Roma would have been in the champions league have he delivered what he was meant to do last year. Didnt even have to have a good season, just average would have done but that didnt happen. He could have had about 50 more goals over his time here from legit 6 yard chances.

The only time I give him a pass was in his first year with the genius of Gervinho and Iturbe supplying for him. That's not easy for any forward to try and understand when the two of them didn't know what they would do themselves.

 

I was going to say “used correctly” = making Salah feed Dzeko on a plate, but you went one further.

 

That's fine. He's not above reproach. I'd have to go back and rewatch the the last 15-20 specifically focusing on it (and while not working).

 

Dzeko is a weird player. He has a powerful shot, can hit it with both feet and has one of the best volleys in the game, but his general finishing is atrocious. He is also terrible at heading the ball (mostly due to his lack of aggression/laziness).

I can’t really agree that Dzeko’s hold up play is anything but brilliant though, it’s the only thing he’s got going for him. His biggest problems are that he is incredibly lazy, and that he doesn’t trust his teammates.

Personally I think Dzeko deserves a lot of respect for what he’s accomplished for Roma, but it’s hard to root for a guy who looks like he’s giving 60% on a good day.

 

He is a 2 footed, has good technique and link up play. He can play any which way. The ways you suggest might be better but because of his skillset they're not the only way. Him holding up the ball and spraying it out wide to then get in the box is classic play for someone like him.

We dont need to go there and bring up the highlight reel. How is it extreme when he was delivered the chances and he fluffed his lines? We have the tape. I've watched Roma a long time now. This shit doesn't go unnoticed with me. As shit and patchy as the team play was under a broken midfield EDF system he was still gifted opportunities like we seen yesterday when he blazed wildly over from a pass the ball into the net finish. He got a goal yesterday. Last year he misses the header. It's those dropped points here and there from such misses than mean you dont make CL. Hes on big money for a reason.

Last year we had Olsen and Dzeko on either end of the pitch making it impossible to be consistent. That's not neglecting issues in midfield but with all of those issues he was still being fed chances and he missed. By the end of the season he was doing his sulk mode when he totally gives up. His mentality maybe the issue that's stopped him going even further in his good career. Dzeko is a funny one with fans. They seem to be very quick to forget these episodes because he can score some beautiful goals or go through patches of form.

 

Just wanted to point out that Fazio did not play yesterday and we didn’t keep a clean sheet.

carry on.

 

Every top ST misses more chances than they convert. There was a stat floating around earlier this year showing which players had missed the most chances and the guys the score the most, miss the most. I was players like; Suarez, Werner, Mbappe, Lewandowski, etc.

I had a coach that used to tell us that he was more concerned if we were not in a position to miss chances.

 

None of them have a highlight reel like him. The miss hits and the blazes over the bar are not the chances you expect top strikers to do repeatedly. He makes people forget because of insane goals like v Sampdoria.

 

Never forget.

 

Lol, in his defense, he did rally and score a few that game.

But that's a legendary miss.

 

The one he skied yesterday when Spinazzola passed it to him sums Dzeko in a nutshell. A striker like Higuain buries that low in the corner. Dzeko skies it into the curva.

 

Good thing we play in an important game once every 2-3 years.

 

At the end of the day we need a younger ST that can start taking over for Dzeko. We really can't get rid of him and roll the dice a young player and just hope he can handle it.

 

Id be really interested to see Schick in Fonseca's 3-4-2-1, but his story here is probably finished

 

Yea he's done. When Fonseca determined he didn't need him last summer it was over for him at Roma. IMO, swapping Dzeko for another old ST at the end of his career is not the answer.

 

If I was a cynical person I'd say that those measley wins were too little too late and the only real purpose they'll serve is long-term harm to the club by not forcing Fonseca out before the strart of next season, but yeah... I'm a cynic so that's exactly what's happening.

The roster won't be significantly improved as it direly needs to be, the only way we're getting better results with the same underwhelming squad is by hiring someone who could get more out of shitty rosters, Fonseca is not that guy, he'll never be that guy, not a million trillion years.

The Roma management keeps on treating the Roma squad as an enemy state with which its in war for 3+ years already. When does this non-sense stop?

 

Dear god, you don't want to pour more misery on this god awful squad , right ?

 

He done well in Germany this year. He suits the faster direct football, oh and playing in him is position consistently helped. We bring in this young guys, play them in the wrong position, wreck their confidence and then say they suck Roma management suck. Why is Gerson doing so well.