News: Mauricio Pochettino: In or Out?

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Mauricio Pochettino - Sack him?

  1. Keep him forever he is great

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  2. Sack him now he is truly awful - it wont be getting any better with Pooch

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  3. Give him until the end of the season - then reevaluate

    9 vote(s)
    60.0%
  4. Give him at least 4 years - Liverpool spent four years, [Jurgen] Klopp didn’t win a title but got th

    2 vote(s)
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  1. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Conte? Not sure he would do much with what we have. He's not great working with kids.
     
  2. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I don't know, I think the kids might need his discipline, hunger, and they need to learn to start "eating grass", and unlike Hazard and more experienced players, they might not tire of it so quick once success comes.

    On the other hand he is not one to compromise nor are Todd-et al and the Brighton carnies, so it might not last long but it might be good kick-start transition to a winning attitude.
     
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  3. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Really not sure what type of manger we need. Conte and Jose are effective bullies working with a grown up team. Tuchel might be more reasonable with developing youngsters but again it is not his forte. Not sure Pep would take the job. Not really sure Nice guy Potter would have done much with them other than some Kumbaya moments. Poch it is for now, I am not seeing many viable candidates.


    I thought we were getting some more coaches? Set pieces?
     
  4. Rman3349

    Rman3349 Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Oct 31, 2006
    Boston
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Been many months since I've posted here because this season is such a drag, but came back to post this:

    Out
     
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  5. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I thought perhaps the fact that Tuchel, Potter, Lampard and now Pochettino have all failed to get anything out of the team might just suggest that the manager isn't the problem?

    I see Livramento is tearing it up for Newcastle, the amount of talent that we've let go is astronomical, in my opinion there are two major things wrong with our club 1) whoever is in charge of recruitment and 2) the medical/fitness department. I think the problems come from behind the scenes.
     
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  6. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Well, Tuchel did not really get a chance with his new regime team, I think he would have had us at least in the hunt for Europa +, though tbf at the time I was alright or more with him leaving for football reasons, :)eek:lesson learned about greener grass) though I was really liking him as a fun unique character. Potter a disaster, Lamp an interim dead man walking a dead team, Pooch better than Potter but never was or will be the answer, Todd-et al are the biggest problem but Poch has screwed the pooch far too much as well, just an awful 2nd half tactical changes and subs showing all season.

    Don't really know what we need either, leaning towards a tough young up and comer the players can respect. We are not an elite team anymore:( so not sure how we can get a proper elite coach with no CL on horizon anytime soon and Todd-et al would not listen to such a gaffers advice anyway.
     
  7. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    In what way? The club is in exactly the same position. The only difference is that Potter didn't even have Palmer to bale us out, lord knows where we'd be this season without him.

    Fun fact - we've let in 2 goals for every one of our last 5 fixtures............our problem used to be an inability to score, seems our inability to defend is our achilles heel right now.
     
  8. limpidrock

    limpidrock Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    We've already blown our transfer budget for the next 7 years. No good manager will come to a club where there's no money to spend.
     
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  9. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Add to that the fact that there are no 'elite' managers left that we haven't already sacked at some point and those that we haven't are already with their feet under 'other' tables and also any up and coming managers have seen how we don't give any managers 'time' and I am afraid that we are stuck with Pochettino.

    Still I still do think he will do OK given time and backing - unfortunately I don't think he'll get either of those things at this club.
     
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  10. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    49% win pooch
    39% potter

    After 28 PL matches
    40-pts 49-for 47-against pooch
    39-pts 29-for 30-against potter

    so a little better and aesthetically more pleasing subjectively to see more goals and more goal misses which is not to say we are a good watch.

    As I said I do not see pooch as the answer and I want him gone so I am not saying he is much better than your 2nd cousin potter:cautious: just less a disaster.

    Do I think we can find a gaffer who will have us sending a fright into Pep soon, no, but I do think we can find one that would have had us 10- 15 points better this season and better than potter or pooch, despite just today Todd apparently saying "THE PROJECT" is right, and on course in turning great individual players in to a great team. Me, I am less sure we have that many great players in the making.
     
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  11. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The exact quote:

    “We just need to let the process develop and give them the time to go from being unbelievable individual players with great skills to fold into a team,” Boehly says of the catastrophe on the pitch in two years since he and his fellow owners took over.

    “The good news is people care so much. And the bad news is people care so much. That leads to times when they’re frustrated with the team and the owners. I get that, but we just have to continue to stay the course.”
     
  12. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The main difference between Poch and Potter is that under Poch we actually score goals and we try to score goals, under Potter that was never happening. The proof is in the proverbial pudding. He who dares wins. . . Had Poch only dared a bit more against the scousers in the final in extra time, we would have won some actual silverware.

    Thankfully the De Zerbi to Chelsea rumours have died down. He is not the answer.

    I am not seeing 'the' manager out there that could do this.

    Poch is desperate for the fans to like him.
     
  13. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    We also seem to 'let in goals'! (no clean sheet since January, 2 goals or more in the last 6 games). Fact is we were far too quick to judge Tuchel, far too quick to judge Potter and are already getting itchy trigger fingers over Pochettio. The government dismantled this football club and we are building it up from scratch (luckily we are lucky enough to have the money to do it) and ANY manager is going to need more than 1/2 a season to turn things around!!

    We sack Pochettino now and its back to square one, just as it was when we got rid of Tuchel and just as it was when we got rid of Potter! Thing is we ARE showing signs of improvement and now would be the very worst time to start again.......again.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mikel-art...n5IpzwPN_PvJF_MuvqMB2MQp1sD59jaYjJsMxXTcAIHp4

    Arteta didn't take over Arsenal and suddenly they were top of the league.
     
  14. Rman3349

    Rman3349 Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Oct 31, 2006
    Boston
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Agree with all this. To be clear, Poch is not our biggest problem, probably not even in the top 5.

    Still: Out
     
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  15. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    It's already been said, but if a new manager is brought in, they will need to be on board with not getting new players. Our budget is gone and we'll likely get points reduction as it is. That eliminates Conte and any other elite manager. They will want better players.

    Tuchel did not want to deal with ownership.
    Potter was not good enough.
    Poch is not good enough.

    Churning managers is also very expensive and we can't afford it. Amorin is off to Liverpool. Alonso is staying at Leverkusen, waiting for a real top job.

    Thiago Motta (Girona)
    Paulo Fonseca (Lille; almost went to Spurs)
     
  16. Rman3349

    Rman3349 Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Oct 31, 2006
    Boston
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Big Thiago Motta fan (Bologna btw, not Girona :))

    Who even knows anymore because again, the manager is far from our biggest problem so even a great manager could fail and get chewed up here, but if it were him I'd be very excited
     
  17. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    oopsy.

    Poch is not the only/biggest problem, but he is a big problem. i wonder how quickly a real manager could come in and get the most out of these players.

    Like, say, we bring in Klopp in a pipe dream and dont change any players. No way we draw Sheffield.
     
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  18. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    yep, a great manager would be ideal, but a manager who had not lost 4 points to the two worst teams, with the game in hand would have had us in good position for the Europa place, even after all the earlier squandered points.
     
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  19. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Poch does lack something. Change for change sake is not a good idea. Who out there would do a better job? Happy to go with a new bloke in the summer IF there is one. Is there one? Who is he/she?
     

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