Matt Miazga playing for Alaves

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Gorky, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    He's not good enough for a Top 5 league but I wouldn't dismiss his usefulness for the NT just yet.
     
  2. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Translation: he’s tall
     
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  3. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going long stretches (weeks/months) in-between games isn;t helping Matters
     
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  4. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Inch perfect assist.
     
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  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    How was he performing prior to the howler?
     
  6. krelmatrix

    krelmatrix Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    Leipzig, Germany
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, he gave his man enough space on a free kick situation to score an uncontested header two goals before so.....it was already going wonderfully.

    Both situations were simply brainfarts on Miazga's part. He has ability and physicality, but these instances are what will make any high-level team say "HARD PASS". It pains me to say this (especially having happily watched him come up through RBNY) but if he wants to have any consistency in his career after his Chelsea cashcow stops giving milk, he needs to be in a league where these things won't be so consistently punished.
     
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  7. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Matt is one of those guys IMO that when he is in the groove he can hang with a pretty high level of play.
    When he isn’t he can be Matt. Still, overall, he has played fairly well for the Nats. He could absolutely dominate, and wreak havoc on a team like El Sal. Paired with Robinson he would be fine against Hondo. Hell, without Davies there he could do the job against Canada.

    The lack of a home has been brutal for both he and EPB. They aren’t world beaters, but in a stable environment I feel they could perform fairly well. Loan army money, loan army madness.
     
  8. krelmatrix

    krelmatrix Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    Leipzig, Germany
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you mean as coach? I seem to recall another central defender who was never really a hit in the top 4/5 leagues and is somehow trying out the coaching thing these days...
     
  9. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Of course, most good coaches never play in the top leagues or standout in them at all. ;)

    Just sayin.
     
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  10. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every time I see a player do this -- play the ball blindly back towards their own goal under no discernible pressure -- I shudder. Why do players do this? Is it something that coaches tell them to do? It seems so inane, as a field player, to play the ball backwards to a keeper with (usually) less skill in tight circumstances with their feet. Players, unless clearing the ball, don't even play the ball blindly FORWARD. Yet they seem to do it all the time playing it backward. It makes zero sense to me.
     
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  11. krelmatrix

    krelmatrix Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    Leipzig, Germany
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on, Maradona was an amazing coach. ;)

    This whole player-coach-pedigree thing is silly and I don't even know if it's worth the marketing angle for teams to hire a former superstar who will simply blow it on the field. I've never been impressed by the work that guys like Lampard, Pirlo, Klinsmann or (sacrilege) Zidane, who just inherit good situations, do as coaches. They'll eventually have the opportunity to become competent coaches if they try hard enough, but they are rarely, if ever, the top guys.

    I'm sure that the latest batch of Xavi, Rooney and Gerrard are going to do sooooo much better. Barcelona is really trending upwards since Xavi showed up. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Is anyone?

    Lampard got sacked by Chelsea at the first sign of trouble, Pirlo lasted a year, and Klinsmann is a massive joke everywhere.

    Zidane is a different story (he won 3 Champions Leagues in a row!), so I've left him out. But the other 3, I don't see them as having much, if any, managerial prestige.
     
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  13. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Real Betis is legit one of the best teams in the world. A champions league level team in Spain is nothing to scoff at.

    The mistakes were glaring and bad but great teams put players under pressure. Chlsea, for instance, looked absolutely horrid vs Man City this weekend and couldnt get a single shot before subbing pulisic off deep into the game.

    Its not like Matt did this against a USL level team or something....

    a bad game is a bad game....in and of itself it doesnt define a player
     
  14. krelmatrix

    krelmatrix Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    Leipzig, Germany
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zidane was/is competent and inherited a situation that even my cat could have turned into major trophies. He'll have a solid career if another Galactico-style club gives him another shot. I wouldn't expect him to excel in something like the now-open Everton position (that's all Rooney's to enjoy :ROFLMAO:).

    The others still got hired, so either somebody (foolishly) believed in them, or they thought the marketing boon would offset the drop in results.

    Anyways, I've veered too far off-topic. I look forward to USMNT coach Matt Miazga channeling his inner-Gregg and pissing off the fan-base by calling up too many MLS players in the qualifying campaign for the 2042 World Cup. :D
     
  15. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #8265 m vann, Jan 18, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2022
    As a coach, it drives me up the f****** wall. I will flip out even if nothing comes from it. I have a GK right now that thinks he's Neuer with the ball at his feet. To be fair, he is good with the ball at his feet and is a solid D1/D2 prospect. Anyways...... he is ALWAYS barking at the defenders because he wants the ball, he wants a touch. He can't get it through his think ass skull that every time he barks, those CB's will pass it to him and often blindly. I yell every time it happens. MY GK and CB's just shrug me off like no biggy. They will understand eventually when we unnecessarily concede a goal. My gripe is every time you blindly or unnecessarily recycle the ball to the GK, you allow that opponents defensive line to step up / compress making it way more difficult to progress the ball forward. Then if the GK just plays it long, more often times than not, you're giving the ball right back to them. I preach and preach progressing the ball forward and always looking to make angled passes out of the back. I love getting the GK involved springing an attack but unnecessarily playing it back to him because you're too lazy to pick your head up and play it forward, is not spearheading an attack it is killing an attack.
     
  16. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    oh, that's bad! :eek::eek:
     
  17. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great rant, er, uh, motivational speech, coach!!
     
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  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Ouch.

    It's just such a casual move too... weird.

    In other news, the check cleared. So there's that.
     
  19. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Klinnsman is an interesting case study. He never was respected by people who truly understood the game. Even in 2004-2006. He inherited a vet US team that knew its roles, and slowly but surely showed he really didn’t have clue. Then Hertha. Add all of the spiteful, calculating, vengeful things he did to his “enemies”along the way, and I am happy he isn’t into politics.
    He has all of the makings of a populist strong man, with little actually ability. No matter what he has shown he will always have his loyal mob to support him no matter what as he “fights the power”. Think I am being over the top. No I’m not.
    The guy was actually ahead of his time in the West. Sadly.
     
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  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    He's surpassed the number of matches he played in Ligue 1.

    Is he the first Yank to play in 3 of the top 5 leagues? I was thinking Gooch but he never played in Serie A.
     
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  21. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Mikey.
     
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  22. Dervos

    Dervos Member

    Mar 13, 2002
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Kasey "I lived in a freaking castle" Keller
     
  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah, my apologies the thin (haired) white duke.
     
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  24. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bradley played in Germany, the EPL (rarely), Italy, and Holland.
     
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  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    19 games in top 5 leagues, and he's only 26.

    He has time to play for Venezia and Wolfsburg.
     

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