Mathis to Salt Lake

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Section113, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. Section113

    Section113 New Member

    Feb 26, 1999
    Boonton
    WOW.

    Didn't see that coming! Just mentioned on the Jamaica USA game as a solid rumour.

    Damn.
     
  2. CbR

    CbR Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    Bergen County NJ
    if he's not getting playing time in germany then why not. I'd love to see him back in MLS, even though he'll be on a different team. It will defenatly increase his chances of sneaking into the final roster for the WC.

    If Salt lake makes a run for Mathis, who's to say we cant make a run for Eddie Lewis? He'll be a perfect fit
     
  3. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    Preston North End
     
  4. CbR

    CbR Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    Bergen County NJ
    but 500k transfer fee for the king of goals is possible
     
  5. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah that is Stones favorite little rumor bomb to drop latley..hell he might as well, his career in Germany is done after his display.
     
  6. Arisrules

    Arisrules Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Washington, DC
    STone is an idiot.


    Balboa is...speechless...i have no comment...but that freaking hair is so great. No split ends nothing, it's insane.


    Back to the commenting. There was a Jaimaican who was flagged offside, and Balboa comes in with the "full yard" offside. He was probably onside. I started laughing. What freaking angle was he looking at.
     
  7. CbR

    CbR Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    Bergen County NJ
    Stoner belongs on NBA Inside Stuff
     
  8. Deuteriumoxide

    May 27, 2003
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, if this happens it will be painful for me to see.
     
  9. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    What was Clint's "display" in Germany?
     
  10. jkl;

    jkl; New Member

    Oct 15, 2003
    Remember the MLS way...
    We get first option and compensation if he goes there.
    Now that Kreis is in SLC, maybe we can get the real king of goals...
     
  11. Shaydee

    Shaydee Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    showing up the coach i guess, but his benching has more to do with him playing horribly then what he did. remember he started the game after he showed up lienen
     
  12. Deuteriumoxide

    May 27, 2003
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    LoL, you've been spending too much time in the politics board mike. He got pissed at his coach because he wasn't getting any playing time. So basically, the coach subs clint in in like the 80th minute. Clint scores the game winner about ninety seconds later. He then procedes to run to the sideline, grab his crotch, point to his watch, and say something to the effect of "it's about damn time."

    It varys a little according to who you ask.

    Now this isn't anything to make your run of the mill American Terrell Owens fan blush but apparently it isn't... ahem... kosher in Germany.
     
  13. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    unlikely, got an allocation when he left and used it on Cornell Glen. Wilt confirmed Chicago lost all rights to Bocanegra last offseason when a very similar situation occured to them also
     
  14. Derek

    Derek New Member

    Jan 23, 2000
    That's a slight exaggeration...

    Last-minute goal keeps Wolfsburg first

    Mathis also languished on the bench until the 81st minute, then 90 seconds later stripped a Schalke player of the ball and beat two defenders off the dribble. He then passed off and popped up on the right side to volley in a cross for the game-winner.

    Afterward, the American ran down the sideline and tapped his watch angrily at coach Ewald Lienen as if to say he should have played earlier.

    "Naturally he wanted to play earlier -- but this way he came in with the necessary anger in his belly," Lienen said.
     
  15. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Grabbing crotches would go over real well with the Mormons. This is further proof that these announcers actually repeat what they read in some of the other forums here.

    Oh, and about the game?......was anyone suprised that the goal scored against the U.S. was by a former MetroStar? :rolleyes:
     
  16. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The goal was by PK. The PK was caused by a foul in the box by another ex-Metro. The foul was clear and uncontroversial. So ex-Metro creates PK for other side. Another ex-Metro converts. Now, is that something for us to proud of?
     
  17. b00zeNYC

    b00zeNYC Member

    Feb 11, 2003
    Alphabet City
    Add the ex-Metro play by playing the ex-Metro PK as part of a duo that look disturbingly like adult versions of Beavis and Butthead, and we know that cosmically, we are cursed beyond a reasonable doubt.
     
  18. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats not an exaguration... Thats exactly what happend. Clint made an idiot out of himself.
     
  19. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Rob Stone is the white Ahman Rashad.

    And that's not a good thing.

    As for Mathis, anyone remember what we did with that allocation? Was it Glen?
     
  20. studsup

    studsup New Member

    Aug 12, 2001
    Garden State, born N
    Clint has yet to be coached / managed by someone with enough smarts to outsmart his childish tendencies.

    Probably most of the adult coaches can do this...

    and that may sound liek a really flip thing to say, but there are lots and lots of ill tempered strikers who at one point could not control their emotions to the point where it hurt their play. Part of that quality is an ingrediant in many, many strikers.

    It is like pro-coaching 101 to be able to handle that.
    Hey, Clint still has some great skills. You can not teach or coach a player to develop that kind of ability. You make make it better but you can't create it.

    However, plenty of coaches have been able to teach strikers how to curb their tendencies so that they mature into fully functional professional and worthwhile players. This is not unusual nor is it a great bit of coaching.

    (what about BA ? Criticizing players like this in the press clearly shows a real misunderstanidng of the process. Give any other coach his choice of ALL, that's right ALL of the American players and see how they do.... sorry Bruce rant, bit off topic)

    Please, there are so few teams in MLS, one would think that all of the coaches would be good. Any good coach would welcome Clint to the team and be able to work with him. The byzantine MLS rules and fee strutures aside...

    My two cents . I still think the guy can play and real well and be very, very entertaining.
     
  21. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sunil Gulati confirmed that in MLS, if a player goes overseas and the MLS club does not receive an allocation, they get first crack at him if they have the cap room or foreign slots open (if needed). If they do not have the cap room or pass on the player, then other teams are offered a crack in reverse order based on their point totals over the last 30 regular season games.

    If they did get an allocation, then he's fair game for other teams in the usual Byzantine way they allocate allocation-worthy players.

    So if you got the allocation and used it for Glen, then if Mathis were to return, he would be offered to whoever is first in line for allocations. With expansion, you'd assume that RSL and Chivas have first crack, but in what order and who comes after that is anyone's guess.

    Tom
     
  22. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gyroscope-challenged Glen
     
  23. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not an exaggeration. Some of the news sources stressed the watch-tapping and didn't talk about the crotch grab before it. Others did, such as: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/soccer/09/27/bc.eu.spt.soc.mathisout.ap/

    "Mathis then tore down the sideline toward his own bench, grabbed his crotch, gave coach Ewald Lienen an angry look and pointedly tapped his wrist as if wearing a watch.

    He later confirmed the gesture was meant the way it was widely interpreted -- that Lienen should have played him earlier.

    Hannover downplayed the incident, widely seen in Germany as an insult to Lienen."
     
  24. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    Does that mean Rob is married to the wife on Everybody Loves Raymond?
     
  25. Real Ray

    Real Ray Member

    May 1, 2000
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or did Clint and his posse take him to Scores?
     

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