Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Section113, Nov 17, 2004.
Didn't see that coming! Just mentioned on the Jamaica USA game as a solid rumour.
if he's not getting playing time in germany then why not. I'd love to see him back in MLS, even though he'll be on a different team. It will defenatly increase his chances of sneaking into the final roster for the WC.
If Salt lake makes a run for Mathis, who's to say we cant make a run for Eddie Lewis? He'll be a perfect fit
Preston North End
but 500k transfer fee for the king of goals is possible
Yeah that is Stones favorite little rumor bomb to drop latley..hell he might as well, his career in Germany is done after his display.
STone is an idiot.
Balboa is...speechless...i have no comment...but that freaking hair is so great. No split ends nothing, it's insane.
Back to the commenting. There was a Jaimaican who was flagged offside, and Balboa comes in with the "full yard" offside. He was probably onside. I started laughing. What freaking angle was he looking at.
Stoner belongs on NBA Inside Stuff
Man, if this happens it will be painful for me to see.
What was Clint's "display" in Germany?
Remember the MLS way...
We get first option and compensation if he goes there.
Now that Kreis is in SLC, maybe we can get the real king of goals...
showing up the coach i guess, but his benching has more to do with him playing horribly then what he did. remember he started the game after he showed up lienen
LoL, you've been spending too much time in the politics board mike. He got pissed at his coach because he wasn't getting any playing time. So basically, the coach subs clint in in like the 80th minute. Clint scores the game winner about ninety seconds later. He then procedes to run to the sideline, grab his crotch, point to his watch, and say something to the effect of "it's about damn time."
It varys a little according to who you ask.
Now this isn't anything to make your run of the mill American Terrell Owens fan blush but apparently it isn't... ahem... kosher in Germany.
unlikely, got an allocation when he left and used it on Cornell Glen. Wilt confirmed Chicago lost all rights to Bocanegra last offseason when a very similar situation occured to them also
That's a slight exaggeration...
Last-minute goal keeps Wolfsburg first
Mathis also languished on the bench until the 81st minute, then 90 seconds later stripped a Schalke player of the ball and beat two defenders off the dribble. He then passed off and popped up on the right side to volley in a cross for the game-winner.
Afterward, the American ran down the sideline and tapped his watch angrily at coach Ewald Lienen as if to say he should have played earlier.
"Naturally he wanted to play earlier -- but this way he came in with the necessary anger in his belly," Lienen said.
Grabbing crotches would go over real well with the Mormons. This is further proof that these announcers actually repeat what they read in some of the other forums here.
Oh, and about the game?......was anyone suprised that the goal scored against the U.S. was by a former MetroStar?
The goal was by PK. The PK was caused by a foul in the box by another ex-Metro. The foul was clear and uncontroversial. So ex-Metro creates PK for other side. Another ex-Metro converts. Now, is that something for us to proud of?
Add the ex-Metro play by playing the ex-Metro PK as part of a duo that look disturbingly like adult versions of Beavis and Butthead, and we know that cosmically, we are cursed beyond a reasonable doubt.
Thats not an exaguration... Thats exactly what happend. Clint made an idiot out of himself.
Rob Stone is the white Ahman Rashad.
And that's not a good thing.
As for Mathis, anyone remember what we did with that allocation? Was it Glen?
Clint has yet to be coached / managed by someone with enough smarts to outsmart his childish tendencies.
Probably most of the adult coaches can do this...
and that may sound liek a really flip thing to say, but there are lots and lots of ill tempered strikers who at one point could not control their emotions to the point where it hurt their play. Part of that quality is an ingrediant in many, many strikers.
It is like pro-coaching 101 to be able to handle that.
Hey, Clint still has some great skills. You can not teach or coach a player to develop that kind of ability. You make make it better but you can't create it.
However, plenty of coaches have been able to teach strikers how to curb their tendencies so that they mature into fully functional professional and worthwhile players. This is not unusual nor is it a great bit of coaching.
(what about BA ? Criticizing players like this in the press clearly shows a real misunderstanidng of the process. Give any other coach his choice of ALL, that's right ALL of the American players and see how they do.... sorry Bruce rant, bit off topic)
Please, there are so few teams in MLS, one would think that all of the coaches would be good. Any good coach would welcome Clint to the team and be able to work with him. The byzantine MLS rules and fee strutures aside...
My two cents . I still think the guy can play and real well and be very, very entertaining.
Sunil Gulati confirmed that in MLS, if a player goes overseas and the MLS club does not receive an allocation, they get first crack at him if they have the cap room or foreign slots open (if needed). If they do not have the cap room or pass on the player, then other teams are offered a crack in reverse order based on their point totals over the last 30 regular season games.
If they did get an allocation, then he's fair game for other teams in the usual Byzantine way they allocate allocation-worthy players.
So if you got the allocation and used it for Glen, then if Mathis were to return, he would be offered to whoever is first in line for allocations. With expansion, you'd assume that RSL and Chivas have first crack, but in what order and who comes after that is anyone's guess.
Not an exaggeration. Some of the news sources stressed the watch-tapping and didn't talk about the crotch grab before it. Others did, such as: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/soccer/09/27/bc.eu.spt.soc.mathisout.ap/
"Mathis then tore down the sideline toward his own bench, grabbed his crotch, gave coach Ewald Lienen an angry look and pointedly tapped his wrist as if wearing a watch.
He later confirmed the gesture was meant the way it was widely interpreted -- that Lienen should have played him earlier.
Hannover downplayed the incident, widely seen in Germany as an insult to Lienen."
Does that mean Rob is married to the wife on Everybody Loves Raymond?
Or did Clint and his posse take him to Scores?