Mathis to play? [R]

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Alex_1, Nov 27, 2004.

  1. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    IMO, Clint is too much of a "cherry picker". He'll take plays off and then play well for a while and then disappear again because he's out of gas. And sometimes he doesn't feel like pushing himself.

    He's not really a Paul Gascoigne, he's more of a Jeff George.
     
  2. USAin2006

    USAin2006 Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Jeff George, after being out of football for three years is now going to be the QB for the Bears. If HE can get another chance, I am sure our man Cletus can get a second chance in Europe!
     
  3. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Your memory isn't wrong there - Mathis was on the ESPN Mag cover - at the center of a triumverate with Landon and DaMarcus in the background.

    And my fave title ever, "Why Not U.S.?"

    Which pretty much sums up my thinking on any debate on whether we can ever win the big competitions. Plus, the cover, with all three being MLS-based, really highlighted the arrival of MLS as a league developing top American talent.
     
  4. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Mathis was on the SI cover just before the 2002 WC finals.

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  5. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    The other US mens SI covers:

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  6. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    And both of them said the comment (notice, not plural) was blown way out of proportion.

    Arena then made very public comments less than a year later about what good shape he was in.

    Man, I hate it when people dig up old news and exagerrate it for today's effect.



    ;)
     
  7. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Ah, memories. . .

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    It's funny the things you notice when you look back. Like I notice that DaMarcus is making sure the bling on his wrist gets into the photo.
     
  8. deedougie

    deedougie Member

    Jul 5, 2000
    OAK,CA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, if you read the subhead we actually DID do better than Italy, Portugal, France and Argentina! :) Brings back good memories of Korea 2002!
     
  9. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    Man, Beasley looks like Gooch's size in that shot lol
     
  10. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Some trolling thread, huh?

    A Jeff George? Seems a bit harsh.

    Hopefully he does get the chance to play again. Really thought he would but I suppose he's got some more waiting to do.
     
  11. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Erm, we didn't really do better than Italy. The rest, sure. Kinda surprised they didn't mention Brazil in that subheading, myself.
     
  12. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We did better than Italy. Italy got knocked out in the round of 16 by the ref inspired team from South Korea. Spain was the team that got knowkced out in the quarterfinals by the same ref inspired South Korea. Brazil wasn't mentioned because inexplicably those teams were considered more of pre-torunament favorites. France and Argentina I remember were the big two everyone was talking about.

    Teams we did roughly equally as well as: Spain, England, Senegal

    Teams who did better than us: Brazil, Germany, Turkey, South Korea

    Teams we did better than: everyone else.
     
  13. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Some trolling thread, huh?

    Jeff George had his moments in the sun but overall had a very disappointing career which included being blackballed by the NFL. Mathis is facing similar choices after his falling out at Hanover. There is a lot of "could've -would've - should've" with both players.
     
  14. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Right, right!

    I did mix up those two teams, Italy and Spain.
     
  15. Ricky_DCU

    Ricky_DCU New Member

    Feb 1, 2001
    Somerville, MA
    Brazil probably wasn't seen as a favorite because they had a rather poor qualifying campaign leading up to the 2002 World Cup- they came in 4th place, just beating out Uruguay for the last automatic spot by a single point. They were behind Argentina, Paraguay, and Ecuador in the standings. They lost 6 matches, suffering losses to Paraguay, Chile, Ecuador, Uruguay, Argentina, and perhaps biggest of all, a 3-1 loss to Bolivia.

    So it's not that big a surprise they weren't considered a favorite, because France, Argentina, et al had more successful qualifying campaigns. Between Germany (who had to qualify via playoff against Ukraine if I remember correctly) and Brazil I guess we learned to never count out the big teams just because they're having a bad spell.

    Sorry to go off topic here. As far as Mathis to RSL goes, when Andy Williams was interviewed on ESPN during the expansion draft I remember him saying the Mathis possibility had been discussed with him but he didn't say he had been promised Mathis was coming. Just said it was an exciting possibility or something like that.
     
  16. Charles

    Charles Member

    Oct 4, 2000
    Idaho
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    I've got this poster on my wall. I've been a Mathis fan for awhile, and now suffer in silence at his current peccadillos, hoping for a return to form.

    I suppose it's a sign of how far things have sunk, that I'm currently deriving comfort from the comparison to Jeff George...I was fearing maybe someone would mention Ryan Leaf!
     

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