Matchday 18 Discussion (R)

Discussion in 'Germany' started by olafgb, Jan 25, 2003.

  1. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Whatever comes to your mind.

    Games:

    Bremen vs Bielefeld 2-2
    First point ever in the 11th game of Bielefeld in Bremen. Ailton scored his 14th goal, Skripnik his first Bundesliga goal that is not a penalty kick. For Bielefeld Cha had his first Bundesliga goal. Bremen basically controlled the game, had many chances, but whenever they scored, Bielefeld immediately replied.

    Berlin vs Dortmund 2-1
    Deserved win that probably makes Dortmund say goodbye to all championship dreams. Key player was Amoroso, who first assisted Dortmund's goal and then lost the ball in the midfield to allow Berlin's game winner by Marcelinho in the last minutes. Berlin's Coach Stevens remains undefeated against Coach Sammer.

    Wolfsburg vs Schalke 1-2
    Second game in the Volkswagen Arena, second 1-2 loss. Schalke was better with a brilliant Böhme playing for a new contract. Kmetsch scored his first goal since four years. For ambitious Wolfsburg it is a big loss as the international spots now are far away.

    Kaiserslautern vs Stuttgart 1-2
    Big points lost also for Kaiserslautern. At the beginning they had some advantages, but when Stuttgart started the quick passing, Lautern had no chance to control the attackers. The equaliser in between was already lucky for Kaiserslautern, afterwards the loss could have been higher.

    Rostock vs 1860 1-4
    3-0 at halftime was 1860's highest HT lead since 1966, the year of their last championship. After twenty minutes the game already was decided. Nice day for Markus Schroth, who celebrated his 28th birthday with 3 goals; Rodrigo Costa added the fourth for his Bundesliga premier goal.

    Bochum vs Nürnberg 2-1
    Deserved win for Bochum. Nürnberg scored the lead and oddly collapsed directly afterwards. Not much to say about this game though.

    Hannover vs Hamburg 2-2
    One way game almost over the whole 90 minutes, but Hannover couldn't bring it home despite of a 2-0 lead (plus two shots against the crossbar). Hamburg didn't have more than these two chances and returns home with an extremely lucky point.
     
  2. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    what happened in the dortmund game with a 'shoe' and some sort of celebration? some one care to explain to those of us who didn't see it?
     
  3. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sonntag

    Bayern 3 - 0 Gladbach
    Owen Hargreaves scores his first Bundesliga goal and the first of the game as BM takes an 8 point lead.

    Leverkusen 0-3 Cottbus
    Leverkusen shocked at home to bottom dwellers Cottbus.
     
  4. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    And this matchday leads to an interesting race: who will be the second coach to be fired in this season? Toppmöller, Wolf or Rangnick? Hot race I think and my pick is Rangnick, although Leverkusen should be the first to react.
     
  5. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Maybe this should be included in our Prediction League.
    I pick Wolf.
     
  6. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Some further numbers:

    For Sven Kmetsch the mentioned goal-less time ended in his 250th Bundesliga game. Stuttgart’s left mid Silvio Meißner played BL game 150, his defensive security Timo Wenzel game no. 50. Wolfsburg’s team captain Miroslav Karhan also had his 50th Bundesliga game.

    Bundesliga debuts: Bill Tchato (Kaiserslautern), Steffen Danglmayr (Stuttgart), Pablo Quattrocchi (Wolfsburg), Naohiro Takahara (Hamburg), Vinicius (Hannover), Cristian Fiel (Bochum)


    Regarding the coaches: Bayer will wait until they are on a relegation rank before Calmund reacts (despite of what they say since months, they still did not realise their situation, or at least don't act according to that). Wolf could be out very soon, he needs one win in the next two games, and so does Rangnick.
     
  7. wolfsburgh

    wolfsburgh Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Wolf should be fired. As I noted in a thread earlier, once he became a "lame duck" (a coach who was in his last season), Wolfsburg should have canned him. Until they bring in a new coach, Wolfsburg will continue to provide uninspired performances.

    In the US, we saw Hertha Berlin/Dortmund and Leverkusen/Cottbus. The Hertha game was a good game, and Hertha probably deserved the win (it just broke my heart that Marcelinho scored the winner in OT, since I had predicted a 1-1 draw in the prediction league). Leverkusen looked liked they had no heart; the played nice soccer at times, but they was no fire or urgency to their game. Neuville played well, and after that, it was pretty dire, with Herr Butt making the bonehead play of the day.
     
  8. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Nowotny is out with torn ACL again btw. As Lucio will also for some further weeks and just Placente (bad shape), Juan (injury prone) and Zivkovic (inconstant) as well as amateur Kleine remain, they'll try to sign a new defender until Friday.
     

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