Match 81 [R32]: USA : BIH - CLAUS (BRA)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2026 - Refereeing' started by MassachusettsRef, Jul 1, 2026.

  1. orangefc

    orangefc New Member

    Atlanta United FC
    United States
    Jun 7, 2018
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  2. GoneSouth

    GoneSouth Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    Collina putting out a statement supporting Claus is pretty bizarre right? Makes it seem like different components of FIFA are at war with each other.
     
  3. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's because President Trump directly attacked his integrity. No, I don't think different components of FIFA are at war with each other. You'd expect Collina to defend his referee against such an unfounded and high-profile attack. Plus, CONMEBOL already did so I'm sure there was pressure from there to do something.
     
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  4. GoneSouth

    GoneSouth Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    It seems a little odd to me that FIFA’s referee committee would be putting out a statement responding to a politician
     
  5. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A "politician."

    Or, the human with the biggest microphone in the world and one who just claimed influence over your entire organization.

    It would have been weird if Collina didn't defend his referee here. Silence would be interpreted as acquiescence to the charge.
     
  6. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that two US staffers were suspended for the match against Belgium - team manager and director of security

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  7. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    In the name of all that's holy, please don't let anyone in the political or media realm (not counting myself) know that a security officer was suspended.
     
  8. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Club: Inter Miami
    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "King Charles, pick up the white courtesy phone…"
     
  9. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Platini enjoys a happy retirement life, drinking pastis and eating good fishes with his buddies Jean Tigana and Manuel Amoros in the restaurant he owns in Cassis near Marseille. I see him there from time to time. I doubt he'll come back to business.
     
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  10. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    The Arsenal FC
    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No Luis Fernández joining them? I loved watching that 1986 team.
     
  11. smashdn

    smashdn Member

    Manchester City
    Mar 10, 2026
    Definitely curious. Are these guys typically on the sideline in the dugout?
     
  12. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    They're all good friends. It’s just that Tigana lives in Cassis, like Platini, and Amoros is in the area too. Tigana is a winemaker these days; he produces a quality wine called 'Dona Tigana'.
     
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  13. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Just one more post to tie with COL - ENG 2018 :D
     
  14. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/foot...e/folarin-balogun-ban-world-cup-usa-25z8bfjg3

    Sunday Times reporting that the chairman of FIFA’s disciplinary committee made the decision completely alone on Balogun
     
  15. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Which means that Infantino called him and Trump and his team called Infantino.
     
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  16. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    It’ll be interesting to see if FIFA issues a denial.
     
  17. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Or some kind of Orwellian judo move
     
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  18. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd


    Just shameless.
     
  19. seadondo

    seadondo Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Redondo Beach
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The US went from a win-win situation where winning without Balogun (best possible outcome) or losing without Balogun (oh well, we had our best goal scorer out) to a lose-lose situation, where even if we had won it would have been tainted. And now that we've lost, it gets even worse.
     
  20. Unnaturallybigger

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Just to clarify, there is no evidence (at least presented to date) that al-Kamali had any business interests with Trump. I wouldn't consider "What I was told" as a reliable news source, particularly with no details provided. Regardless, I think the optics are terrible and I believe reinstating Balogun backfired.
     
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  21. jarbitro

    jarbitro Member+

    Mar 13, 2003
    N'Djamena, Tchad
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Al-Kamali is the first Asian or Middle Eastern person to hold his position, so it was predictable that the trope against him would be along the lines of "a rich Arab, so he must be corrupt." Mix that with politics, and you have "Trump and al-Kamali are in this together..." How doesn't need to be said, it is enough to simply paint the Arab as on the take.

    Al-Kamali is a powerful attorney, who is a partner at one of the largest law firms in the middle east, and who has serve in various ways on Olympic Committees. Most of his firm's clients are horse owners, or athletes, and he has experience with some European top-flight teams as his firm often does arbitration for players on the transfer markets. When players contracts (usually their third contract) thereis often a "sell on percentage." Here is a real example: Tillmean signs with Bayern, loaned to Rangers, then PSV. PSV signs takes over his contract (for something like 10 million going to Bayern). Then later, PSV sells him to Bayer Leverkusen for soemthing like 30million. PSV is suppsoed to give a percentage of that 20 mil increase back to Bayern, based upon the increased value from the time he was on loan but owned by Bayren. Almost guaranteed nobody agrees on what the increased value is, so that is subject to arbitration, and that is what Al-Kamali and his firm specializes in. Can you see why he's on the FIFA disciplinary committee? Oh, one more thing-- al-Kamali himself is not primarilly a soccer guy. He is into horses. Equestrian, polo, the whole thing. Oh, and his co-chiar, Jorge Palacio, is a former supreme court justice in Columbia, and is the soccer side of the relationship. I personally wouldn't buy the whole "he acted on his own without consulting anyone else" thing. At all.

    Meanwhile, Trump buys real estate and is building a giant tower in Dubai.

    Who knows, maybe one day al-Kamali and Trump will go into business together (can you imagine Trump negotiating on the transfer market?), but until then the idea that becasue Al Kamali is Arab he must be for sale to Trump is insluting in both directions.
     
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  22. GoneSouth

    GoneSouth Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    It seems like it’s very common for disciplinary decisions to be made by one member of the committee, so that part doesn’t seem as nefarious as people are trying to make it out to be
     
  23. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    It would be very interesting to know the actual facts. It does seem odd to me that a single person would make a decision of this magnitude and departure from past practice without consulting anyone else. Once again, FIFA does itself no favors with the veil of secrecy that invites conspiracy theories--especially following the presidential call to Infantino and the President taking credit for the reversal. Saying we have an independent committee really isn't close to enough when (as it appears) the decision was made solely by the Chair of that committee. (I note some have been saying that the reversal was by a committee of referees--I haven't seen anything to suggest that the Chair was an experienced referee.)
     
  24. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do we know it’s “because?”
     
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