Match 8: QAT : SUI - MARTINEZ (HON)

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  1. MassachusettsRef

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    #1 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
     
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  2. MassachusettsRef

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    #2 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    I love how Match 8 occurs before 5, 6, and 7 AND it's in an earlier alphabetical group (B instead of C and D). I get either of those facts being true, based off how FIFA has numbered matches in the past. My brain simply cannot comprehend the numbering here, but it all leads to Match 8 being next on the docket!
     
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  3. MassachusettsRef

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    #3 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    Well to say there’s a lot going on at 14’ is an understatement.
     
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  4. MassachusettsRef

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    #4 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    Live call of penalty is good. Presume yellow for DOGSO if this stands. But I thought it looked offside…?
     
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  5. Tigerpunk

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    #5 Tigerpunk, Jun 13, 2026
    Was that not offsides twice?
     
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  6. Bradley Smith

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    #6 Bradley Smith, Jun 13, 2026
    It looked off to me, too.
     
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  7. MassachusettsRef

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    #7 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    And then you have some obvious questions about head injury and allowing him to continue playing, but that’s not Martinez’s call.
     
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  8. sjquakes08

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    #8 sjquakes08, Jun 13, 2026
    Do we praise the AR for keeping the flag down on a play that really looked offside in real time? Or did he just keep his flag down because he knew it would be checked?
     
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  9. RefIADad

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    #9 RefIADad, Jun 13, 2026
    First one seemed on. Second one sure looked off.

    I’d love to see that AI image they’ve shown a lot in Champions League games.
     
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  10. MassachusettsRef

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    #10 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    Our eyes must be deceiving us.
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

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    #11 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    Sure we’ll see the SAOT in 10 minutes.
     
  12. code1390

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    #12 code1390, Jun 13, 2026
    Interesting. Looking forward to the saot graphic.
     
  13. Beau Dure

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    #13 Beau Dure, Jun 13, 2026
    I may need to watch again -- was it really an OGSO? The player he fouled wasn't going to score. The ball was gone.
     
  14. HoustonRef

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    #14 HoustonRef, Jun 13, 2026
    I missed it. Did the foul occur before any offside? Or was he onside?
     
  15. MassachusettsRef

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    #15 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    That’s inherently a DOGSO. Ball wasn’t gone. In fact he waited to call the penalty because there still was sort of a potential for the ball to end up in the net.
     
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  16. Tigerpunk

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    #16 Tigerpunk, Jun 13, 2026
    Foul definitely did not happen before any offsides if there was any offsides.
     
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  17. code1390

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    #17 code1390, Jun 13, 2026
    Went back to look on my phone. Its closer than I thought but I still would have guessed offside. Especially without an English style margin of error.
     
  18. MassachusettsRef

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    #18 MassachusettsRef, Jun 13, 2026
    Good SPA card at 22’.
     
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  19. Tigerpunk

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    #19 Tigerpunk, Jun 13, 2026
    Watching it in Spanish so if anybody hears an explanation in English please let me know.
     
  20. Beau Dure

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    #20 Beau Dure, Jun 13, 2026
    I'll need to rewind or watch it again later.
     
  21. sjquakes08

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    #21 sjquakes08, Jun 13, 2026
    In a truly objective world, I probably think yellow is harsh. But I also think that DOGSO is just the expected call on a keeper foul as last man on anything other than a missed shot.

    I do think there's a chance that he would have recovered that ball if not fouled -- but not sure about obvious.
     
  22. code1390

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    #22 code1390, Jun 13, 2026
    Could also argue reckless as well.
     
  23. Tigerpunk

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    #23 Tigerpunk, Jun 13, 2026
    Well certainly towards his own health.
     
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  24. frankieboylampard

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    #24 frankieboylampard, Jun 13, 2026
    The yellow jerseys + yellow GK rookie stuff. Also interesting they’re watering field at water break. Wonder if it’s a way to help preserve the field or to cool it off at field level.
     
  25. RefIADad

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    #25 RefIADad, Jun 13, 2026
    Yeah, after seeing the first replay and his head snapping back, I really didn’t need to see the other angles……..
     
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