Match #62 - NED : ARG - ÇAKIR (TUR)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014: Refereeing' started by La Rikardo, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Kick/Tackle on Sneijder or Block on Messi ?
     
  2. sjt8184

    sjt8184 Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Club:
    DC United
    Two fouls in a row that I thought were cautions...none shown.
     
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  3. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The later though the tackle on Sneijder could have been too.
     
  4. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indeed. Not a good sign the failure to caution Mascherano? I suspect. We don't want any more of that
     
  5. IARef96

    IARef96 Member

    Oct 19, 2010
    Clive, IA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Cakir just bounced

    Edit: hopped? What's it called when you hop out of excitement?
     
  6. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not a good sign in that it definitely falls into "Don't try this at home" because for the matches that most of us do that has to be a caution 1000% of the time.

    However it's pretty much in line with the rest of this world cup so it's not the worst sign.
     
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  7. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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  8. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cakir is lucky this is the 44th minute and not the 34th.
     
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  9. Thezzaruz

    Thezzaruz Member+

    Jun 20, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    And that he cautions for???
     
  10. sjt8184

    sjt8184 Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Club:
    DC United
    I was going to say Martins indi would be my bet for first caution, then he got one.
     
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  11. ColoradoRef

    ColoradoRef Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two tactical fouls on Messi in a row.
     
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  12. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True that. I suppose in the end I haven't been a fan of letting such things go.

    PI for Martins Indi?
     
  13. Thug Mentality

    May 30, 2011
    kick on sneijder could be red. at least the second tactical on messi was cautioned.
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First PI of the tournament!
     
  15. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Egad! I think you figured it out -- for this WC it has to meet two cautionable criteria. So PI + tactical is enough, or PI + reckless, or reckless + tactcial!! :D
     
  16. beamish

    beamish Member+

    Jul 6, 2009
    One might think that the lack of cards has been working this WC, since there have been a lot of good games, but they broke poor Neymar's back. Not worth it.
     
  17. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I don't think that caution Martins got was even a foul to be honest and there is no way in hell that Cakir gives him a yellow if he cautioned him for the first foul he committed on Messi.

    When FIFA makes some new videos on the LOTG what clips from this World Cup are they gonna use for Law 12 Fouls and Misconduct?

    Busacca has completely turned international refereeing on it's head with this World Cup. It's doing a disservice to some of the early MLS refereeing we've seen.
     
  18. o5iiawah

    o5iiawah Member

    Oct 31, 2008
    Thought when cakir called back the Arg advantage for the first Indi foul that it was going to be yellow. Then next one has to be PI yellow for a ticky tack barely there foul.

    Like others have said: Welcome to the 2014 FIFA World Cup
     
  19. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you are right! Demichelis just got booked and I thought it was tactical, but he didn't get booked til he started dissenting. That's my impression since Cakir gave him the running mouth hand gesture, anyway.
     
  20. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd like to see the yellow card amnesty moved to the end of the round of 16.

    The way it is now basically gives everyone a free yellow to use in the semis. If you get a yellow in the QF and one in the SF, then too bad, you miss the final.
     
  21. Thezzaruz

    Thezzaruz Member+

    Jun 20, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Precisely what FIFA didn't like about how it used to be so not likely.
     
  22. seadondo

    seadondo Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Redondo Beach
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think 3 yellows = 1 game suspension, and be done with it.
     
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  23. sjquakes08

    sjquakes08 Member+

    Jun 16, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's a radical suggestion: how about, if you get two yellows in one game, you get a suspension. And that's it.

    I honestly think scrapping the yellow card accumulation rules would take a lot of pressure off of referees to avoid giving yellows, and allow them to manage the game as they are accustomed to doing. I believe this would make the games safer, or at least as safe as they are now.
     
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  24. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He missed but the offside call against Higuain was wrong.
     
  25. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ooh. There is your blown call controversy
     

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