Match 58 (QF): CRO : BRA - OLIVER (ENG)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Refereeing' started by balu, Dec 7, 2022.

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What do you think of Oliver's performance?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2022.
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  3. 3

    5.9%
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  9. 9

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  10. 10 (best)

    17.6%
  1. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    107' is a good case study in why MLS instituted it's draconian DR yellow card this season. Brazilian defender just flicks the ball over the signboards when he wasn't even the one who was sticking around the take the throw. So it takes more time for his teammate to get the ball. Who, in turn, delays and wastes time. Kicking the ball over the signboards was the start of it all.
     
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  2. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    109'

    I hate that foul. The croatian is facing his own goal and gets kicked pretty hard.

    I know they wanted to play quick, but I think that's got to be a yellow. The attacker was never going to get it.
     
  3. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Alexi is alright.
     
  4. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I was half watching. Did he call the foul? I though the GK kept possession and he let them play fast.
     
  5. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    Oh he called it. He just let the GK take the free kick 15 yards back to get the ball in immediately. This is a bad foul.
     
  6. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    And he gets the Advantage goal. Well done.
     
  7. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    117'

    Advantage of the tournament, that. Leads to the game tying goal.
     
  8. Ickshter

    Ickshter Member+

    Manchester City
    Mar 14, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh boy......
     
  9. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Those feel awesome in my games--must feel really amazing to get that right in a WC KO game.
     
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  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LD giving credit to a ref for playing advantage. He's alright in my book.
     
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  11. heynowref

    heynowref Member

    Aug 12, 2015
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    and the praise from Landon for the advantage!!
     
  12. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    121'

    Not a caution?
     
  13. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    The Croatian GK deserves a raise . . .
     
  14. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Oof. Antony embellishes that but it should have been a YC.
     
  15. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know a lot can happen in four years, but you have to think Michael Oliver just put himself in pole position for the 2026 World Cup final. He’s been so, so good today.
     
  16. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    IMO the non-caution was consistent with the game.
     
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  17. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Dempsey and Lalas saying Oliver has done poorly. Clueless.
     
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  18. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    109' and 121'

    I can't understand that these were not cautions. One pass each way. Don't get it.

    That said Lalas calling Oliver out for "not having a very good game" is not analysis that I agree with. Alexi got this one wrong.
     
  19. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Lalas doesn’t think Oliver was good. Well Alexi and I will agree to disagree. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  20. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    I get that. Just me, the fan not thinking it works well. That's it. I'm not assuming Oliver pulled up in his car, opened his trunk and asked his partners 'what color you want to go?'
     
  21. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If England lose tomorrow, he’s at least in the discussion.

    But four years is so long. And so many other factors. Plus I’ve long learned there’s either no real pole position for that match OR it rarely matters or comes to fruition (see Faghani).
     
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  22. sjquakes08

    sjquakes08 Member+

    Jun 16, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did he use a coin flip to determine which goal to kick towards? Is that standard?
     
  23. chwmy

    chwmy Member+

    Feb 27, 2010
    Do you require shin guards in kftm?
     
  24. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alexi gets a lot wrong. Par for the course with him.
     
  25. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yes. Flip once for end. Flip a second time to decide who kicks first.
     

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