Match 57 (QF): NED : ARG - MATEU LAHOZ (ESP)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Refereeing' started by balu, Dec 7, 2022.

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What do you think of Mateu Lahoz's performance?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2022.
  1. 1 (worst)

    26.4%
  2. 2

    17.0%
  3. 3

    24.5%
  4. 4

    20.8%
  5. 5

    3.8%
  6. 6

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 7

    3.8%
  8. 8

    1.9%
  9. 9

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 10 (best)

    1.9%
  1. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Match #57 (Quarterfinal)
    Netherlands : Argentina
    Friday, 9 December 2022
    22:00 local time (14:00 EST)
    Lusail

    Referee: Antonio MATEU LAHOZ (ESP)

    AR1: Pau Cebrian Devis (ESP)
    AR2: Roberto Diaz Perez Del Palomar (ESP)
    Fourth Official: Victor Gomes (RSA)
    Fifth Official: Kyle Atkins (USA)
    VAR: Alejandro José Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
    AVAR (1): Drew Fischer (CAN)
    Offside AVAR (2): Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
    Support AVAR (3): Julio Bascunan (CHI)
    Stand-by Offside AVAR (4): Corey Parker (USA)
    Stand-by VAR (5): Fernando Guerrero (MEX)
     
  2. Mikael_Referee

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Sth to smile at before the match tonight :)

     
  3. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On a purely random off-topic note, has there ever been a better "soccer kit" day than what's coming up today with Argentina vs Netherlands and Brazil vs Croatia happening on the same day?
     
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  4. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA has determined Argentina needs to wear white shorts and socks. So a little stray from the classic.

     
  5. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least they are allowing Argentina to keep the shirts, but sometimes I really don't get FIFA's rationale for mandating certain color choices. Last I checked, black and yellowish orange aren't exactly similar. Last night Iowa and Iowa State played a college basketball game. Iowa wore black, and Iowa State wore their "cardinal red" uniforms. No issues there, and the Dutch kit is a lot lighter than Iowa State's deeper red.

    But it's FIFA. Logic and reason aren't exactly noted as strengths on its resume . . .
     
  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was so good in that game.

    We can laugh at that offside, but it was a borderline 50/50 call for a lot of linesmen not too far before that tournament.

    Last KO match with two red cards? Other than Portugal-Netherlands, of course.

    It’s interesting to think about those cards. For all the talk about referee’s changing behavior and holding their cards, we can also probably say that player’s aren’t as willing to do blatantly silly things. Easy 2CT and easy VC (“easy,” rather). You just don’t see that too much today. Even the ones we think are obvious now are simply not as obvious as the ones given on this day.
     
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  7. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone suggested it was the black referee kit. I haven’t checked back fully. I know Argentina wore black socks so that’s not the issue. But perhaps they haven’t had a black referee jersey thus far? Note it is a change from the initial announcement. So someone decided a switch was necessary.
     
  8. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    The poor Ball Kid doesn’t get any variety.
     
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  9. StarTime

    StarTime Member

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Uruguay has seen a black referee kit with their black socks and shorts a few times this tournament. So who really knows.
     
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  10. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a game of whack-of-mole, but perhaps the opponent's socks/shorts would have clashed with Uruguay's change socks? These type of things are a big puzzle because one change can necessitate another. So then you start prioritizing the best changes.
     
  11. Chaik

    Chaik Member

    Oct 18, 2001
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Did FIFA finally get rid of the "can you tell the contrast on a black and white TV?" standard that they hung on to forever?
     
  12. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe so, yes. I haven't seen it in the regulations that I've read for some time. I wouldn't hazard a guess on when it was removed, though.
     
  13. Mikael_Referee

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Agree about the offside. Especially remembering that this linesman was essentially ‘the Ragoonath’ of this WC (Owen Powell from Jamaica) - he did well here, and overall for the tournament in fact.

    Far, far from nowadays ofc!
     
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  14. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    I hope we get a lahoz classic moment especially in speaking Spanish to the Argentines
     
  15. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    He has a reputation for inflaming games?? When?
     
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  16. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In this day and age, I'm still surprised that FIFA hasn't allowed colored socks at least when a team is wearing black or navy socks.

    I get that black is still traditional and probably the first choice, but it would still eliminate some things if colored socks were still an option. I know that when I do ECSR college, I generally still wear black socks regardless of shirt color unless a team is wearing black or navy socks.
     
  17. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    13’ slide from behind thru attacker and player gets the ball, calls foul and talks to player

    Commentator “if it’s all ball how is this a foul”
     
  18. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Idiot. Regular season that’s a caution as well.
     
  19. Ickshter

    Ickshter Member+

    Manchester City
    Mar 14, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definetly more fuel for youth/HS coaches everywhere... :rolleyes:
     
  20. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Ofc LeBron and Brady get worked in somehow
     
  21. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    13' - That is justifiable for a careless foul, but he could have also gotten away with no foul if he wanted to (the slide only "carries away" the foot after playing the ball rather than going through the leg to get there). It's a choice either way.
     
  22. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Wow Tom Brady and lebron James. WHO CARES
     
  23. gaolin

    gaolin Member

    Apr 21, 2019
    Birmingham, AL
    Lahoz and Di Maria having a quick sidebar at the subs bench... must have missed each other.
     
  24. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Ah so no foul if he traps the leg after getting the ball instead of before. Got it.
     
  25. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another PIADM for the bingo cards.
     

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