Match 53: Japan (E1) vs. Croatia (F2)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Knockout Stage' started by Paul Calixte, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    that is exagerated
     
  2. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    They were soft, just slightly to the side of the keeper and with no power. You couldn't take a worst penalty unless you put it into the 35th row.
     
  3. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    They really were terrible. Good penalty kicks are blasted above shoulder high into a corner, or right down the middle because the keeper almost always moves one way or another. But these Japanese attempts were slow grounders, and with zero deception. Keeper just had to guess right, and Japanese players made that pretty easy.
     
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  4. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Yeh, I didn't expect Japan to win the shootout, but that was much worse than I expected. You would think they would prepare better given Croatia's history of going to extra time and PKs.
    I think Doan and Kamada would have been cool in that situation, but unfortunately they were already subbed out.
     
  5. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    Kamada really threw away a golden opportunity to end the game in the 2nd half by blindingly trying to pass it rather than shoot on goal.
     
  6. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    I think you are talking about Tomiyasu. At least that was the obvious one for me. He had loads of space to shoot.
    But Kamada did have a chance at 0-0 that I think he should've done better with.
     
  7. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    #107 Romisirr, Dec 5, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2022
    Probably was Tomiyasu then. It was 1-1 and with some standard finishing that was a 2nd for Japan but he kept his head down and tried to pass it to nobody but 3 Croatian defenders. Wasted opportunity.
     
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  8. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    yeah tomiyasu after a good pass from mitoma
     
  9. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    If it's any consolation to Japan, the Spanish penalty takers were even worse.
     
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  10. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    It was designed that Brazil wins in 2014. Another World Cup title.
    But you can't arrange all matches. Colombia lost intentionally, no desire in their match against Brazil.
    Yes, Croatia was pretty much average in that World Cup. Some new players were too young, but they became important in future years. Pletikosa, Jelavic, Vukojevic, Zelenika, Schildenfeld, Badelj, Rebic, Olic, Sammir, Vida are mostly average.:rolleyes:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_squads#Croatia
     
  11. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Where is the problem, if someone who isn't from Croatia - likes Croatia?:rolleyes:
    Maybe they don't play beautiful like in 2018, but no one else plays in that way.
    Maybe France. Spain lost today against that "weak" Morocco where Croatia played horrible.:D
    I knew that Morocco will go far. I expected the triangle: BEL, CRO, MOR in that group.
     
  12. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    But he is Croatian. And everyone knows thid. Why pretend?
     
  13. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    They could score higher. Or in the central part. There is a reason why Japanese players shoot like that. Lack of confidence, fear of missing it. Livaja shot also badly. That tiny jump or whatever is this named. They should all shoot higher. It's impossible that GK covers the spot above 1m. David Luiz knew how to score well. Also, Mendieta used that ground shot, but he would always scored.
     
  14. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    This World Cup isn't attractive in many aspoects.
    - many players are old and out of shape
    - without great free kicks
    - without great actions
    - high physical domination, instead of technique

    Maybe this is the reality, World Cups of 21st century are in decline overall.
     
  15. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    Who is today's Zidane, Totti, Ronaldinho?
     
  16. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Depay, Messi, Neymar, Modric, Ziyech, Cristiano Ronaldo, Mbappe, Bellingham. If we observe the last eight.
    You can find them in your three choices. But, some of these ones are older. Your names had much greater skills, impact and creativity. Icons of popular culture.
     
  17. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    Messi yes, but he is 35. I am looking at current crop of young players

    The others are not the same as the three I mentioned
     
  18. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    There aren't any players similar to those that you mentioned.
     
  19. Romisirr

    Romisirr Red Card

    CSKA Sofia
    Bulgaria
    Nov 14, 2022
    Exactly. Players may be more fit and fast, but there's no visionaries coming through the ranks.
     
  20. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Maybe because I was a child during the greatest periods of Zidane, Totti, Ronaldinho, but the period of last 20 years isn't something special.
    This World Cup has very bad coaches. Few of them have the value: Deschamps, Santos, Van Gaal, Southgate...
    Scaloni wanders a lot in his choices. People often say: the real Ronaldo. We can say the same: the real Lionel, where Messi is in charge, not Scaloni.
     

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