Match #48, 2018 World Cup: Colombia vs. Senegal - 6/28/18

Discussion in 'GROUP H: Poland, Colombia, Senegal, Japan' started by Furnaccio, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. RealMadridista

    RealMadridista Member+

    Aug 21, 2006
    Chicago Il
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Seems like Colombias biggest weapon is the defense Mina and Mojica amazing today
     
  2. ShortyMac

    ShortyMac Member+

    Barcelona
    Apr 10, 2011
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Colombia wins the group and Japan goes through second on Fair Play (!).
     
  3. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Morocco unlucky. Senegal, a little unlucky and a little overhyped. The rest overhyped.
     
  4. jogger

    jogger Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Despite the fact that what they did at the end, refusal of play, was the contrary of "flair-play". But that's the game...
     
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  5. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Tough break for Senegal. Them and Morocco showed some good stuff.

    FIFA fair play points seems like a real BS tie-breaker given how subjective a YC can be. I'd rather them flip a coin.
     
  6. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    To be fair, they tried very hard to be eliminated.
     
  7. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Barca signing Mina was always a good thing. He would be very useful for us against bus parking opponents. Anyways well played Colombia and Senegal:)
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    And Poland gets some points to go home without much shame. Had Japan really wanted, they could have beaten the Poles and topped the group.
     
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  9. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Bob Marley lookalike is a good coach nevertheless.
     
  10. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Colombia deserved to top the group IMO. Senegal should have advanced as well. Seems like a very poor tiebreaker.
     
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  11. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Being eliminated on fair play seems like a worse way to go out than on penalties...
     
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  12. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Senegal out via fair play but Japan go through with an act of unsportsmanlike conduct by refusing to go forward against a team they are losing against. Pretty bizarre circumstances.
     
  13. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Your anti-UEFA agenda is showing. Plenty of "boring" sides have qualified, including Japan.
     
  14. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Why? They couldn't beat Japan.
     
  15. jogger

    jogger Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    That's debatable since they were always taking the risk of a Senegal goal in the other game, I really don't believe that they were expecting a place in play-off thanks to yellow cards accumulation.
     
  16. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I liked Senegal way of playing, wish they could have gone through too. Only an equalizer and one less yellow card away...
     
  17. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Japan was gifted points by Colombia in the first game after a boneheaded play by Sanchez. Senegal played better throughout the tournament IMO.
     
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  18. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    But they were outplayed in their direct matchup with JPN. Look at the stats and listen to Cisse after the game.
     
  19. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't really agree. Senegal didn't know how to play with the lead. I do agree that they didn't deserve to win that game, but overall, I think they were the better team over the course of the three games.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I doubt the Japanese press will be fine with their players passing the ball around to waste time those last minutes.
     
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  21. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Yeah, I actually find UEFA pretty annoying and most of those teams pretty dull. Japan at least has flair and organization.
     
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  22. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A boneheaded play to try to deny a clear goal. Not sure why a boneheaded team should win a match.
     
  23. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Colombia plays better football and I’m happy they went through. I’ve always had a soft spot for Colombia as a nation itself in general. I also felt that samba touch in Colombia.
     
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  24. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Senegal only looked convincing in the first game, but their goals were due to rival errors. Japan bossed Colombia in the second half of their game, but one man up. Overall, both teams were pretty bad/inconsistent, so I cannot agree with your assessment of one of them being more deserving than the other.
     
  25. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    So, you're defending the idea that bonecrunching tackles that could injure an opponent or professional fouls shouldn't mean anything, but knowing how to intelligently play out a game when you're ahead in the tournament, that's somehow wrong.

    Pressing in that circumstance and risking a goal that sends you home would have been profoundly dumb. Sitting back and absorbing pressure would be dumb. Getting the ball and holding it is actually a decent approach.

    So, you're basically in favor of dumb, thuggish football. Lovely.
     

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