Match 45 - ESP : GER - TAYLOR (ENG)

Discussion in 'Euro 2024 - Referee' started by balu, Jul 3, 2024.

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What do you think of Taylor's performance?

Poll closed Jul 5, 2024.
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  1. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
  2. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Instead of worrying incessantly about whether or not the arm is in a "natural" position, I would like to see the IFAB focus much more on reaction time as a indicator of intentionality.

    Now that there are chips in the ball, the amount of time between when the ball is struck by the attacker and when it hits the defenders arm/hand can be precisely measured.

    Anything less than 1.00 seconds, and a handball should be considered unintentional.
     
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  3. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You've got it.
     
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  4. Unnaturallybigger

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    I don't understand why the powers that be moved away from the explicit consideration of distance. Although I dont think we need to rely on chips in balls to determine reaction time, I think its sufficient to rely visually on distance.

    While never technically a law, but an interpretation, the concept of "ball to hand, hand to ball" was straightforward and less subjective than natural position which requires a bio-mechanics degree.

    Prior to a decade ago, the concept was that you couldn't play the ball with your hand aka "handling". Now its more along the lines if it hits your hand its perceived that you've gained an advantage and should be penalized. Its fundamentally changed the game and not in a good way.
     
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  5. AmeriBrazil

    AmeriBrazil Member

    Jun 18, 2010
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    At the risk of being carded/ejected/banned from the forum...I'd like to say "Germany, the universe has levelled its accounts for WC 2002. Only took 22 years."
     
  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    UEFA admit to colossal mistake which cost Germany a EURO 2024 triumph - Yahoo Sports

    UEFA Referees’ Committee has conceded that a penalty should have been given.

    In a statement on Monday, they said: “Following the latest UEFA guidelines, hand-to-ball contact that stops a shot on goal should be punished more strictly, and in most cases a penalty kick should be awarded, unless the defender’s arm is very close to the body or in contact with the body.

    “In this case [Cucurella], the defender stops the shot on goal with his arm, which is not very close to the body, making himself bigger, so a penalty kick should have been awarded.”
     
  7. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    I came to post about this, too.
     
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so um...care to guess what might have taken them 2 months to come clean???
    ;)
     

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