Match 30 - GER : ITA - LANNOY (FRA)

Discussion in 'Euro 2012: Refereeing' started by code1390, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. oldreferee

    oldreferee Member

    May 16, 2011
    Tampa
    i though he was pulling back an advantage. maybe the AR stepped in?
     
  2. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Italy seems to be doing quite well on two fewer days rest.....
     
  3. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    I don't think anyone told them Germany was the better team. That's what I kept hearing but man Italy just has this.
     
  4. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    HE CAN'T PLAY THE BALL ON THE GROUND!

    Sorry had a flash back to my last three centers.
     
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  5. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly the Italians didn't read my prediction in the knockout stage thread....
     
  6. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Whoa, why would they say that? And to who that sounds nuts.
     
  7. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    That's two offside decisions I haven't gotten a replay of now.

    Ok good there's one, correct decision.
     
  8. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Lannoy was pointing and running for a German throw in...that looked like insisting.
     
  9. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    WHOA Penalty!

    Two of them!

    Well he's got at least one right.
     
  10. oldreferee

    oldreferee Member

    May 16, 2011
    Tampa
    that was some odd positioning by the cr, no?
     
  11. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Yeah it was, I was looking for him and then he came on screen and it was weird.

    Good foul call on Hummel, he tried to get away with it but that was good.
     
  12. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    YOU CAN'T BLOW IT THERE!!!!

    You had a Penalty in Added Time!
     
  13. Another NH Ref

    Another NH Ref BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 29, 2008
    Southern NH
    Penalties don't add time.
     
  14. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
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    May 25, 2006
    When will teams learn?

    When you get a deadball at the death, if you play it into the box, the CR will let it play out.
    If you pass nearby, the CR is going to blow every time.
     
  15. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Why not? They should, it's taking time out from playing.
     
  16. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
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    Seattle Sounders
    He had more time to play, he should've seen it out.
     
  17. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Horrible call for the PK. Balzaretti was getting pulled back by the shirt the whole time.
     
  18. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    That was nothing, there were two handling fouls in the span of a second, call one of them sheesh.

    Lannoy isn't a great referee but he didn't screw up any major decisions.
     
  19. Another NH Ref

    Another NH Ref BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 29, 2008
    Southern NH
    Not. They are part of the game, just like corner kicks and goals kicks and so on.
     
  20. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Also in the Laws of the Game it says "Allowance is made in either period for all time lost through..." then a list. It is at the discretion of the referee, I think it's ridiculous you don't add time for a PK, it stops the whole game and can take up to a Minute.
     
  21. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    If a corner kick or a goal kick takes up too much time I'm adding time, PKs always take up time.
     
  22. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    My daughter is a ref and was watching this in some bar in Rome. I'm looking forward to her report.
     
  23. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Half of Stoke's throw ins take up to a minute too. Still part of the game (as annoying as it is when you are drawing/losing to them).
     
  24. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Of course it's part of the game, that's why you add time for it. It takes time so you add time for it. If you're not adding time for a throw in that takes up to a minute or cautioning someone you're really messing up.
     
  25. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the difference is, those are delayed because of the team in possession. Penalties are typically delayed because of the initial dissent and getting the goalkeeper to take up his spot on the goal line.

    No, they are not an explicit thing listed as something that needs to be made up. But let's be realistic. You give a penalty in stoppage time, you're adding time for it. Heck, it ends up being a goal, doesn't it? We add for goals.

    I mean we're probably talking about another 30 seconds and a very small likelihood that Germany would score. But I still don't think it's a decision we should be defending. If you put up a set number of stoppage time in your match and you award a penalty, I think you need to be adding another 30-60 seconds in almost all situations. Lannoy went about 15 seconds over here (maybe 20)... I think allowing one last rush would have been completely justified and fair.
     
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