Match 3: CAN : BIH - TELLO (ARG)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2026 - Refereeing' started by MassachusettsRef, Jun 9, 2026.

  1. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    Canadian break up of the Bosnian counter.
     
  2. Eastshire

    Eastshire Member+

    Apr 13, 2012
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    If he can't play the ball safely, has the keeper gotten to it first?
     
  3. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Punch without full follow-through? Push the ball away with an open hand? Get there sooner?

    I don't know, this is the thing, right? There are some plays in our game where the old answer was always "well I don't know what else he was supposed to do, he has a right to go for the ball." The new paradigm is supposed to be that if you can't go for the ball safely, perhaps you don't have a right to go for it.
     
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  4. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Pretty sure the restart was for the OS on the through ball.
     
  5. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    Was that called? It looked extremely close to me.
     
  6. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Looked like the GK took a FK 30ish yards out from the goal line.
     
  7. The Royal We

    The Royal We Member

    Aug 2, 2012
    57' we have a delay of TI call
     
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  8. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which, if true, means he never really signaled that well on-field, right?

    I'm not going to say I hate the SAOT/tech stuff, because getting the right decision is important. But referees need to communicate things and do it demonstratively. If they don't, what else are they there for? Tello just never looked like he was on top of that situation and the reason is probably because he wasn't. I don't think he had any idea what he was going to do if it was onside.
     
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  9. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right. Maybe it all got visually confirmed while the broadcast was at replay. I still stand by my criticism of Tello's iniital approach to the scene.
     
  10. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Total non reffing . . . it's the 21st century with AI and budding quantum computing--but no one can design a TV camera that can account for and adjust for the shade across have the field??
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And then a Canadian sub pops up from the bench to facilitate a quick throw for his team and is admonished by Tello, which of course also slows down the game (I'm pointing out the irony; Tello was absolutely correct to do this).
     
  12. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They just confirmed the 49' offside at 59'. Top notch stuff.

    So, there might have been a world where VAR had penalty if not for the offside. I think we know Tello didn't have it, but I guess you never know. This is now one of those situations where we haev no idea what anyone was going to call on a massive play because we have a temporarily uncalled offside right before it.
     
  13. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    Replay seemed to indicate he was on, but a different angle could show otherwise.

    If the restart was NOT for offside, then it should’ve been a dropped ball, shouldn’t it? If it’s not a foul on the keeper, then the only justification for stopping is for the injuries.

    (Unless we live in Bizarro World and that was a foul on the Canadian attacker.)
     
  14. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    But the lack of card tells us that the on-field team had at most a careless foul and the VMOs at most a reckless one - for a punch to the head. Strange times.
     
  15. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    63' against Canada... it's a fine line to call that careless but not reckless. I do really feel like Tello is working hard to avoid what he might feel are "unnecessary" cards against Canada.
     
  16. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think there's any world where alleged misconduct gets punished there if the restart is going to be offside. It would have to be deliberate violent conduct for anyone to intervene. I'm sure of that. The lack of a yellow means nothing other than not wanting to confuse or complicate things.
     
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  17. socal lurker

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    May 30, 2009
    The broadcast showed the OS image--very close. It may have been too close for the AR to get the immediate buzz. Curious to know if that was the case. (If memory serves it is 10 cm.)
     
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  18. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't want to pile on, but 68' could, theoretically, also be a card against Bosnia #5. Probably doesn't need to be, but I'm just not sold on what Tello is doing overall. I think it's part of a clear strategy to not be a stringent disciplinarian and not help raise the temperature on a match that will inherently have a high one, but I am not at all convinced it's getting the results that set him up for success in the next 25-30 minutes. In fact, I'd bet against it.
     
  19. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That goal should help a lot, barring a very controversial KMI decision.
     
  20. HoustonRef

    HoustonRef Member

    May 23, 2009
    There's been some substitions but the Fox bug still shows 5 available for both teams.
     
  21. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it just shows one for Canada. It’s shaded. Not great.
     
  22. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    Remember when yellow cards for simulation existed? Good times.
     
  23. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah no idea how you effectively get +3 with all those subs and the injury stoppage. And at least one punished example of timewasting. It’s night and day from 2022. We are just pretending that didn’t happen and that the hydration break doesn’t really last 3 minutes, I guess
     
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  24. HoustonRef

    HoustonRef Member

    May 23, 2009
    Well, I believe it's just poor graphics design.
     
  25. Law6

    Law6 Member

    Nov 17, 2023
    I don't think a water break after a goal is realistic because you don't want to cut away for ads during the celebration, replays and potential VAR action.
     

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