Match 26 - VEN : CAN - SAMPAIO (BRA)

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  1. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In Arlington/Dallas
     
  2. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    Of Netherlands-USA fame.
     
  3. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Arsenal
    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    36' Shaffelburg booked for entering without permission - He and the Canada technical staff insistent that he was given permission; Miscommunication or just gamesmanship?

    EDIT: I couldn't see
     
  4. agpie

    agpie New Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Apr 1, 2017
    Now i remember this guy..unfortunately. It just seems like there is always things going on in his game that don't feel confidently handled. If that makes any sense.
     
  5. Bradley Smith

    Bradley Smith Member

    Jul 29, 2013
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Not sure either. Initially Venezuela took the free kick before the whistle, so Sampaio made them retake it. Maybe Shaffelburg was confused by the ref waving for the second attempt at the restart?
     
  6. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was quite a collision right as Sampaio ran past the play; it looked worthy of a stoppage at some point.
     
  7. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Totally and completely on Sampaio. He wave for the Venezuelan's to take the kick and get on with it. Except it was from the exact same angle that Shaffelburg was positioned at. It looked, to a player waiting for a beckoning from the referee, exactly what it was supposed to look like.

    A stronger referee would have mea culpa'd that and explained things to the Venezuelans, who wanted a cheap yellow card. Instead, Sampaio gives the yellow. But hey, he probably got to blow his whistle 17 times stoppage to stoppage there, so all is good for him.
     
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  8. Bacalhau

    Bacalhau Member

    Jun 8, 2016
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    This match is going to end in a brawl
     
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  9. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    100% this is what happened.

    One might want to say Shaffelburg needs to know play has to restart first. But play did sort of restart AND we also want player's reacting to referee signals there.

    I'm really not even blaming Sampaio for making that signal as it probably was reflexive and then it's just a bad coincidence that Shaffelburg is an unintended target of it. But once people realize that Shaffelburg isn't just walking on to the field for no reason, Sampaio needs to exercise his judgment. It's not like Shaffelburg was trying to commit misconduct for some tactical reason. He just casually strolled back on during a stoppage because he thought the referee told him to do so.
     
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  10. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    Will be shocked if there isn’t a red card or mass confrontation.
     
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  11. Bacalhau

    Bacalhau Member

    Jun 8, 2016
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    After watching the Euros this is just thuggery. Unbelievable
     
  12. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    One thing I have to say for Sampaio... he's on top of the play.

    But he's missing things left, right, and centre. And far too picky when he does call stuff.
     
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  13. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's CONMEBOL's Irmatov?
     
  14. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess I've just conflated the good Argentinian refs of the past few cycles with CONMEBOL being good because the average ref in this tournament has been a dumpster fire.
     
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  15. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The last CONMEBOL referee not from Argentina and not named Ricci who has been objectively good at a World Cup is... Larrionda?

    Valenzuela had a pretty okay tournament in Qatar but now we'll have to see if he can sustain that.
     
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  16. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Red?

    Guess not. Just assuming the worst for the CONCACAF side.
     
  17. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not coming but that was a real stupid way to take an SPA card.
     
  18. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    55' and the attempted "quick restart" looked comically stupid but they never gave us a good replay. Sampaio's inability to manage it other than being a traffic cop was evident, though.
     
  19. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    please tell me he's close to retirement age. Surely Brasil can do better than this, no?
     
  20. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Aspires to be that good ;)
     
  21. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Member+

    May 25, 2006
    How is that not a caution on the keeper
     
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  22. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    the lack of a caution on the GK there is just corrupt
     
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  23. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    And now the GK grabbing the ball from the Canadian player on the touchline for a throw-in... and no caution?

    This kind of stuff makes you just not enjoy the game.
     
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  24. Bacalhau

    Bacalhau Member

    Jun 8, 2016
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Why is the keeper playing as a sweeper lmao
    What is this football?
     
  25. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Member+

    May 25, 2006
    It literally changed the game.
     
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