Match 24 | Australia vs Ghana | 19.06.10 | Pre/During/Post Match Discussion [R]

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre Match and During Match

Kewell moved his hand out whether it was intentional or just reaction he denied a goal scoring opportunity and it was a red card no question.

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

The Red Card in this game was deserved Cahill's should have been yellow. As far as FIFA hating Australia this is crap. If they hated Australia they would had left them in Oceania to the and forced to play South America no 5 everytime and not let them move to the Asian Confederation and give them a better chance to qualify. I don't care much for Blatter either but in this case as in most cases when people say they have something against their country you are wrong.

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

So why does every decision go against Australia? I can't remember once a debatable call going against their opposition you tell me if you can.

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

don't think anyone is denying that my friend. Was a penalty.

The red card is what has upset us. It was very unfair ad is now two games in a row where we have had to play a huge portion of the game with our opponent having an unfair advantage.

in 180 minutes of world cup soccer - Australia have had to play 90 minutes with only ten men, based on two VERY questionable straight reds. It's disappointing after 4 years of watching us prepare for this tournament to see our chances so greatly affected by such.

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

pfht - they let us be stuck in that mockery of a qualifying set up for over 50 years before they got off their arse and did the common sense thing.

Oceania logically should just be merged into Asia with the top 2 teams qualifying to join the Asia qualifying tournament.

What a joke of a point you made

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

What if a defender is running across to block a shot when the attacker with the ball thumps it straight at his arm (which is away from his body due to his running style)? In this situation should the defender have been running with his hands behind his back/in his crotch? How many players have you seen chest a ball with their hands behind their back?

This is where FIFA's laws are a bit hazy and, IMO, need adjusting. I think the PK was a fair result but the red was way too harsh. FIFA's laws put that handball in the same category as a defender palming a ball away from the goal or catching a goal bound shot. Is that fair?

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

The red card that was handed to Cahill against Germany was entirely undeserved and harsh. That was a yellow card offense. But the red card in this game, while definitely hurtful to Australia and not something they necessarily could have avoided, was not a wrong call based on the rules of the game.

As for Australia's team, they are good enough to give most sides in the World Cup a run for their money. Their game against Germany was as lopsided as it was for two reasons primarily: first, tactically, they played an open style against a superior opponent, which is always risky; second, they found Germany on a day where it was playing some of its best football, with many of its players doing a masterful job.

All that said, I don't think Australia's chances of advancing to the next round are all that good. Although they will be tempted to play for 3 points against the Serbs, I think they would be better off playing a more conservative style to force the Serbs to take the game to them, looking to beat them on quick buildups from midfield stripe and on counters. Even if they succeed, they will still need a lot of help from either Germany or Ghana. Which is more likely -- Germany beating Ghana by 4 goals (if Australia secure a 1 goal win over the Serbs), or Ghana beating Germany -- is anyone's guess. Neither look likely at the moment, but we will have to wait and see.

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

IIRC, Chapuisat scored in USA'94, Romania 1-4 Switzerland, in exactly that way: He charged the GK's clearance, jumped in front, put his arms up to defend his face, and the ball bounced off his forearms (about 1 diameter above his forehead) and down behind the keeper, where he poked it in. Apparently the ref thought it hit his torso.

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

Shit refs in Aussie WC games goes like:

Merk - Poll - Germany ref - This guy - El-Fatah - Medina Cantelejo

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

This is the strangest decision in the game that has received very little talk time. It was clear as day to most. Maybe just another one of those "close the eyes" things that is too prevalent in soccer.

If it was 10 V 10 then Aust's momentum would have been greater still in the second half. Hopefully some of those 50/50 decisions (hell, even the more obvious 70/30 decisions) start to go our way next game.

We are a sure thing to receive a PK for handball when playing against a Balkans team anyway.

 

Re: 19 June 2010 Australia vs Ghana Pre/During/Post Match Discussion

Nah, I'm predicting a third straight red for AUS, early in the upcoming Serb game. FIFA has decided so.

 

It hits Kewell's upper arm/shoulder which is a little away from his body but the question remains if his arm was directly beside him would it still have hit it? If the answer is yes it shouldn't have been a handball if no then the referee got it right. Pretty hard to tell. All we know is that it should've been 10 v 10 once the Ghana player slid studs up into the back of Bresciano no doubt about it.

 

Very clear decision. Handball on the line, preventing a goal. Ref has no choice: Red card.

Furthermore i doubt it was completely unintentional. Kewell must know there is going to be a shot on goal. And instead of protecting his upper body or face or family jewels, he is literally extending his arms, making himself an even bigger target, he certainly wanted to not let this ball into the goal, he is at least taking the chances that the ball deflects from his arm.

 

If it hits Kewell's arm, when Kewell keeps arms and hands to his body, that ref should't award a penalty. But in fact Kewell's arms were wide out there.

 

Yeah but you try moving with your arm directly next to your torso it doesn't feel natural. Especially with no time to react he couldn't think of that he just tried to get his chest over there. He couldn't in time and that's why it hit his arm.

 

Even if that would be the case (I wrote how i see it, two posts earlier) it would still be a penalty, with arms wide open, ref has no other choice than to award a penalty.

 

Australia versus Ghana is now up on Stattoz.

There are now stats for team percentage passes, percentage of successful team defensive passes in the defensive half and percentage of team successful team offensive passes in the attacking half.

There are 4 tables.

1. Individual stats for the Socceroos before Kewell was sent off.

2. Team stats comparing the Socceroos and Ghana before Kewell was sent off.

3. Individual stats for the Socceroos when they went to 10 men at the 23 minute mark.

4. Team stats comparing Australia and Ghana after Kewell was sent off.