Match 22: ENG : CRO - TURPIN (FRA)

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  1. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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  2. soccerref69420

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    Man I wish I could watch this live. England Croatia with Turpin officiating is probably the best match so far from that standpoint
     
  3. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    9' - 100% correct PK. An easy gift for Turpin and England.
     
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  4. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    11' - The freeze frame I saw for the PK retake has part of the foot obstructed by the crossbar, suggesting (part of) the goalkeeper's foot might be above the line.
     
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  5. code1390

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    VAR retaken penalty. Very very close.
     
  6. Tigerpunk

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    Jun 17, 2004
    His foot is still on the line what are we doing here
     
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  7. Beau Dure

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    Right -- have I lost my mind?
     
  8. weka

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    Dec 9, 2011
    It was at an angle from up above. They most likely have a view we don't have access to.
     
  9. code1390

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    Hope we get the angle the commentators said was shown in the stadium. They said it made it pretty clear.
     
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  10. pedr

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    Jul 9, 2006
    On ITV in the UK I couldn't hear the announcement but the commentators said encroachment by an outfield player who was then involved with the clearance after the save. It'll be interesting to see it again.
     
  11. Tigerpunk

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    Jun 17, 2004
    I mean they better, and they better show it, because that is not a clear and obvious error from what I'm seeing.
     
  12. mathguy ref

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    Surely we will see the side angle.
     
  13. code1390

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    I'm pretty sure I heard Turpin say goalkeeper.
     
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  14. Orange14

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    Wasn't the call for infringement prior to the kick. The Croation player on the right side of the semicircle was thrown off by the stutter step and move into the box before the kick. That's what the Telemundo replay showed.
     
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  15. Law6

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    Nov 17, 2023
    The player that cleared the ball was about 2 yards into the area.
     
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  16. socal lurker

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    Annoying that the broadcast doesn’t get the image that shows he was off, especially as they showed one that looked like he was on.
     
  17. Tigerpunk

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    Jun 17, 2004
    I'm very curious what kind of side angle wouldn't be blocked by the AR
     
  18. code1390

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    But you are correct that the Croatian that encroached was also the one to clear the ball.
     
  19. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    If the camera is in line with the goal line our view is conclusive: obstruction by the crossbar necessarily means above the goal line.
     
  20. Law6

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    Nov 17, 2023
    Doesn't matter. Keeper on the line is the VAR's call.
     
  21. Pelican86

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    Jun 13, 2019
    The picture on the broadcast certainly looked like the GK was still on or over the line.

    But I watched the replay and while Turpin says GK, in any case the Croatia defender who headed the ball out was well inside the box.
     
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  22. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    When video support (VAR or FVS) is in use the AR will be in line with the penalty mark.
     
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  23. code1390

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    15' corner. Felt a little big like Turpin wasn't sure so he guessed corner and it got overturned. Maybe that's just him being confident in his position to have a couple overturned in a World Cup.
     
  24. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    Absolutely correct. Good spot.
     

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