Match 2: KOR : CZE - OMAR (EGY)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2026 - Refereeing' started by MassachusettsRef, Jun 8, 2026.

  1. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
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    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    That should be disallowed. Surely?
     
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  2. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
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    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Not OIO?
     
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  3. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    There's a replay showing the goalkeeper sees the header all the way.
     
  4. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Absolutely not, I'd almost argue that an offside flag on the field would be clearly wrong. You can see from the angle in the net, and from the angle from the opposite endzone, that the attacker in an offside position never impedes the goalkeeper's view of the ball, as the shot comes from too high and too far to the side. The line of sight is never blocked at all. And there's no obvious action or other offside offense in there. Good goal.
     
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  5. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somewhere in Texas, Earl Campbell is smiling.
     
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  6. ColoradoRef

    ColoradoRef Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The goal keeper was not appealing for it, which says something. I also think the keeper had a clear sightline since the ball went to his left. The attacker in the offside position did not impact the keeper’s ability to see or attempt to save the ball. Plus the ball was headed with decent pace from a close distance, so a save was unlikely no matter what.

    I like that they didn’t chalk it off.
     
  7. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    I hate when people say "save was unlikely no matter what" because that is absolutely not the standard.

    The left versus right thing is the only reason that's not offsides, if that goes top right corner in a way nobody can save, it's being flagged.
     
  8. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
    So this time we did goal, multiple subs, kickoff and then the hydration break 20 seconds later.
     
  9. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I said something yesterday about we'll see soon which referees have common sense.

    It's particularly weird given the goal was scored at 67'.

    I do wonder if FIFA has told referees not to do the hydration break while substitutions are up; if so, it's FIFA that might be lacking the common sense.
     
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  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
    Delayed flag. Was that the ar or the tech?
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    83' kind of weird in that he pointed at the corner taker initially as if to indicate "stop, no, we're retaking it" and then decided that it was a foul while the ball is in play and gave the free kick instead. Either decision defensible with the foul call probably being correct. Not convincing body language at all, though.
     
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  12. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe the angle was deceiving, but what was the justification for the yellow? He grabbed his head. He clearly(?) did not get hit in the head. There was no elbow or arm, right? It wasn't SPA. Did I miss something or did he just sort of get conned into an unnecessary throwaway yellow right at the end?
     
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  13. GoneSouth

    GoneSouth Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    Thought he was perfectly fine. Better than you’d expect from a middle tier CAF World Cup referee (no major errors alone is probably enough to clear that bar)
     
  14. GoneSouth

    GoneSouth Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    On a related note, pretty wild there are fewer CAF trios than in 2022, despite there being way more games this year.
     
  15. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    2022: There were four CAF trios (Gassama, Sikazwe, Gomes, Ghorbal)
    2026: There are five CAF trios (Amin, Ghorbal, Jayed, Beida, Atcho)
     
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  16. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    One thing I picked up on in this game - Amin tired in the last 25mins and everything did get just a little chaotic in this period (nothing major however).

    It made me think: how big a game it was personally for the Egyptian probably contributed to this, but also the guidelines about the countdowns for restarting play too. As a referee, it is really important that you use the 'off time' in the game to mentally calm down, when the ball is out of play and nothing is happening, otherwise you psychologically wear yourself out before the end of the game. These guidelines have very dramatically reduced that period for referees!

    So, I think 'pacing yourself' and deliberately leaving a bit in the tank for the end of the game will be really imortant in this WC, and feels like a space to watch as the competition goes on.
     
  17. GoneSouth

    GoneSouth Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    I guess Wikipedia misled me, but it shows Beida as having only one AR? And it shows Ndiaye as having two ARs in 2022 (though he didn’t get a whistle)
     
  18. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @Mikael_Referee , relative to your comment just above, what were your specific thoughts here? Everyone seemed to accept the card, but I think that was part of the chaotic nature of the scene and the overall idea that the card didn't matter (until it might, next match). It just looks wrong. That said, I'm cognizant of the fact that some people thought the first Mexico yellow card was phantom/wrong and it actually was a very good spot by the AR, so open to the idea that I missed the critical contact. I saw it elsewhere suggested this was SPA but I don't see it.
     
  19. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Beida is in a crew with Dos Santos and Noupue.
    Artan had no linesman attached to him (unique for 2026 but the same as Tessema in '18).
     
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  20. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    https://streamff.com/v/62df537a

    I think the YC is okay/correct - the Korea defender gives the Czech player a small bodycheck after the latter has played the ball, you can see it better from the live sequence than the replay. Korea had no cover on the near side of the pitch and a one-two pass could have put them in big trouble (which is why the defender did what he did). I guess the scream helped sell it for Amin though and the foul by itself was though cynical, clearly, not reckless by itself.

    Screenshot 2026-06-12 at 15.35.17.jpg

    To add: Czech no5 getting away with what he did at +96:07 (I included it in the clip above) without any official seeing it does not paint the match control of the last 25-ish mins in the best light!
     
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  21. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I think the big-arms appeal from the teammate and the grabbing of the head is just what left an unsavory taste in my mouth. I also am the last person that needs or wants to see a card-less match for the sake of it, but I also think when you're that close and you give a borderline one that you simply just didn't have to... it sort of illustrates that you're panicking a bit.
     
  22. Twotone Jones

    Twotone Jones Member

    United States
    Apr 12, 2023
    I'm late on this thread, but curious how often a referee goes from the VAR booth at one World Cup to working on field at the next. Has this happened yet in the few WCs we've had VAR implemented?
     
  23. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The very short answer to the second question is "yes."

    The more complete answer to the first question is to note that we're only dealing with two tournaments and in 2018, referees were pulling double duty as VARs in several cases (e.g., Geiger), so it's not too clean and hard to tell a story since things changed once already and there have only been two tournaments.

    But even with that caveat, the short "yes," is pretty clear. Sampaio, Makkelie, Zwayer, Orsato, and Al-Jassim were all dedicated VARs at 2018. Al-Jassim is what it is, but those other four are big names, with two of them working yesterday and today to open a tournament eight years later.

    From 2022, I think the only dedicated VARs to move to whistles are Fischer and Hernandez Hernandez.

    The thing that needs to be examined here is how the appointed officials are working domestically and in their confederations. A lot--the majority, at this point--of appointed VARs to FIFA tournaments are working mostly as VARs internationally. So to your overall query here, everything has to be looked at on a case by case basis. I think there are 28 dedicated VARs here at this touranment. Not a single one of the UEFA representatives is even trying to referee on-field with an eye toward 2030. So while you can dismiss them as 2030 candidates for the next World Cup, you can't then use that dismissal to say "well see, it's so rare that someone like Dickerson has little chance." Because the opposite is true with Dickerson (and maybe Evans from Australia). They came up just short here, they are from leagues that are strong at VAR, so they are getting the World Cup experience in the booth and will be their nation's likely clear #1s on-field heading into 2030. Dickerson fits a very specific mold where he is at this tournament for the experience with an eye toward 2030 (indeed, if Penso wasn't already a second on-field referee from the US, I bet Dickerson would be there as a reserve instead of a VMO). Meanwhile, someone like Villarreal is now a dedicated VMO in FIFA's eyes, like all of the UEFA guys and many/most of the CONMEBOL guys.
     
  24. the_phoenix612

    Manchester United
    United States
    Sep 13, 2022
    Houston, TX
    I was discussing this exact topic with my family while watching the opener, in the specific context of whether the changes to the LOTG are automatically applied to all competitions worldwide. The mental demands on referees only continue to grow.

    I wish IFAB had made some of these new anti-time wasting laws guidelines (like the "Only the Captain" had been last year) rather than directly implementing them as new laws. They are excellent additions to the game ... when you have a fourth official to help manage them!
     
  25. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    The altitude of the stadium is a factor as well, it’s about a mile up, the same as Colorado. It’s not something he will have been very experienced with; a quick peruse through his match history and I only count 4 games (in Kenya, Zimbabwe, and South Africa) that are anywhere close to that altitude.
     
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