Match #15 - Portugal v. Ghana

If Messi and Lautaro were offside with theirs, then Leao was offside as he had a whole leg behind the last man. Fifa dropping the ball again with VAR, not being consistent when they use it. Showing that they can choose when they go to use it and when they do not. It has changed nothing and in fact just ruined the game more, revealing bias.

 

Not our fault we were expecting Italy to show up at Porto for the playoffs instead we had to play against Macedonia.

Maybe the referee was confused, thought Ghana opponent was Italy and he wanted to pay a tribute to Don Corleone, without real offense to the good citizens of Italy, except the majority who voted for neofascist Meloni and Salvini and the always entertaining Berlusconi.

Monday you have Uruguay to support, don’t cry.

 

Again you know how? I have no idea why you think YOU KNOW better

We saw so many "clearly offside" stills in these last 2 years and the VAR picture showed it was clearly onside

It was not offside your feelings does not chanage that

 

I know how, what? We have screens and technology to see it. We know that two goals were called back for minor infringements of body positioning in other games. Exact circumstances to that goal. We know Leao's leg was past the last defender. VAR has proven to be inconsistent in when it's deployed. That makes it controlled. That means bias can be applied. That doesn't solve previous problems with Ref errors, does it? We know that too. How do YOU NOT?

It wasn't even used, lol. Don't make things up. Point is that it should have been if it has been used in similar circumstances in past games. At least be consistent.

 

Again the picture is distorted. If you can't understand that is strictly on you

VAR for offside has proven to be very reliable

We had many offsides that look way off in these last 2 years and the VAR picture showed it was not

Like Rashford goal vs Liverpool for example

But it was not offside. You do what people like you will always be victims

I think VAR was used for offside in the last 2 years... lol ??

 

You're biased and making excuses, and that's understandable and that is why if VAR is called into other circumstances, they need to be consistent with it here.

It wasn't used here. That's my argument. If it's going to be called into other circumstances that are close, it needs to be used here.

That has nothing to do with it's inconsistent use in this case, while used in others that were the same. All I'm saying is that only using it sometimes and not others, is also biased and doesn't solve the issue it was supposed to solve.

 

Biased? Against whom? I want CR7 to weep this world cup.
Also you are precious with your biased accusations when you say nothing about the bullshit goal taken back. Tell me was Portugal taken a legit goal away?

Automatic offside is triggered by offside

https://www.fifa.com/technical/medi...chnology-to-be-used-at-fifa-world-cup-2022-tm

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If we were talking about inconsistent PKs sure but this is offside. Like GLT offside technology is top notch.

 

You really don't seem to get the argument here, do you? The argument was that VAR was used at least 2x previously in a close call like this. It should have been used here otherwise all they are communicating is that they will use it when they want, and not when they don't. Get it yet?

 

Your argument is Ghana was robbed plain and clearly ... so ... I get it

Again tell me was Portugal not given a perfectly legit goal?

AUTOMATIC offside

The ball has sensors. If it detected an offside it would have triggered a response

 

Like I said, you don't get the argument, which means there's no point stating it again, but I will. If VAR is only used when they want it to be used, and then shelved when they don't want, then it has solved nothing. We know this is true not just from this example but also from the previous World Cup. VAR has failed to bring consistency.

You only "get" your distorted belief of my view. That means you can tear down your straw man argument all you want, tough guy.

 

This.

I dont know why people are complaining so much that it wasn't a PK. It clearly was. Was a little soft? Sure, but still a PK. People need to take their Ronaldo hating sunglasses off. The penalty that was called on Ronaldo to disallow the goal in the 31st minute was worse call. The refs have been bad in this WC anyways.

Also Leão was not CLEARLY off sides. You guys are reaching.

 

Doesn't seem to be many who understand the offside rule apparently.

Here's an example

 

Again... AUTOMATIC offside.

Again read the thing

https://www.fifa.com/technical/medi...chnology-to-be-used-at-fifa-world-cup-2022-tm

If it detected an offside it would have alerted the VAR refs.

It is like GLT the watch only beeps if the ball enters the goal

Yes

YOU are special. We are all stupid and the technology is stupid everyone does not know shit...only you are plus the Ghana and some CAF supporters are the gods of this sport

You all know the truth

Stupid offside tech with their 29 data points of each individual player, 50 times per second, calculating their exact position on the pitch

Plus the sensor, positioned in the centre of the ball, sends ball data to the video operation room 500 times per second, allowing a very precise detection of the kick point.

No match for a screenshot and some people on twitter

 

This isn't the first time the technology has been used inconsistently. You can stop pretending to be naive about that.

If an arm past the defender is offside, then so is a leg.

 

Show me a pic like the one you gave where it is not offside

Bet you can't find one

 

What's blocking you from understanding this statement:

"this isn't the first time the technology has been used inconsistently...both in this tournament and 2018!" ?

 

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The whole automatic offside part. Which is a 2022 thing which was designed to help with the close calls. Any past tournament is irrelevant.

Which is the part you really struggle with. It 's like bringing up the goal not given for England vs Germany in the 4-1 to highlight the issues with GLT

 

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— verde-rubro (@verderubro) November 25, 2022

 

If it's used. Again, you're showing a level of naivety regarding the inconsistent use of the technology. There's dozens of examples.

I'm not struggling with the technology being able to make the right call. I've said that a dozen times. I'm stating a fact; it's not used consistently. You're still struggling with that fact.

 

There is no if

It is AUTOMATIC and used continuously in the game

 

Never a penalty, and Leo was offside, according to who? To you? Did you conduct a poll? Did you ask the VAR team? Ironically it's you that's trying to convince yourself. Was Ronaldo's goal in the 31st minute no good? And why? I just want to know because I don't often get to speak to a member of the referee association so I'm excited.

 

They haven't missed 2 consecutive WC'S so ummmm no.

 

In the example you posted, he wasn't ruled offside because of his arm. He was ruled offside because of his shoulder. Same as Argentina v Saudi Arabia.,