Match 11: NED : JPN - ELFATH (USA)

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  1. sjquakes08

    sjquakes08 Member+

    Jun 16, 2007
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    #26 sjquakes08, Jun 14, 2026
    That sure looked like a push in real time. Haven't seen a clear enough replay yet to see if it was really there.
     
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  2. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
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    #27 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Japan asking for the APP foul but that's not coming with Elfath having a clean look.
     
  3. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    #28 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    I know there are some culture things with Japan and dissent at times, but #16 didn't appeal at all in real time.
     
  4. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    #29 BlueNosedRef, Jun 14, 2026
    57' - Refcam giving the best possible view of the incident and showing why it's a good goal (and highlighting good positioning)
     
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  5. MassachusettsRef

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    #30 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Yes, about to type that. Excellent, excellent decision. Not even close.
     
  6. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    #31 Tigerpunk, Jun 14, 2026
    He absolutely did
     
  7. ColoradoRef

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    Jul 10, 2011
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    #32 ColoradoRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Nice SPA YC 61’.
     
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  8. Soccer Dad & Ref

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    Oct 19, 2017
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    #33 Soccer Dad & Ref, Jun 14, 2026
    Which team’s fans are chanting the same thing the whole game? What is it? (Not referee question, just curious. And annoyed)
     
  9. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
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    #34 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    He did not. #8 did, directly to Elfath. Several other players did by throwing their arms up generally. But the pushed player did not appeal.
     
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  10. KCbus

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    Nov 26, 2000
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    #35 KCbus, Jun 14, 2026
    What the hell has happened to this game in the second half?
     
  11. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    #36 BlueNosedRef, Jun 14, 2026
    66' - Not sure what's going on there with the mechanics of the offside decision. Is Elfath ignoring the flag because of the attacking chance?
     
  12. ColoradoRef

    ColoradoRef Member

    Jul 10, 2011
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    #37 ColoradoRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Interesting on the offside decision. Atkins was confident and put the flag up. But Elfath delayed the whistle considerably.
     
  13. KCbus

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    Nov 26, 2000
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    #38 KCbus, Jun 14, 2026
    I've given up on trying to understand what the mechanics of calling offside are anymore. That seemed like one that was clear enough that it should have been called right away. Of course, I say that while looking at a still frame image.
     
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  14. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    #39 BlueNosedRef, Jun 14, 2026
    I think it's fine to delay, notwithstanding SAOT; still images mislead on how easy/difficult a decision is. But for the flag to go up and go unrecognized for that long is not good.
     
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  15. Pierre Head

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    #40 Pierre Head, Jun 14, 2026
    Yes, but an obvious gift really!
    PH
     
  16. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    #41 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Perhaps Atkins had the technology working for him and used it the right way but Elfath reverted to recent protocols? Or maybe Atkins was just confident on his own to call it? Either way, yes, surprised Elfath delayed particularly after putting his whistle to his mouth. Old (yet still relatively new) habits can die hard.
     
  17. HoustonRef

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    May 23, 2009
    #42 HoustonRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Why did the Japan player have to go off? He wasn't attended to.
     
  18. BlueNosedRef

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    #43 BlueNosedRef, Jun 14, 2026
  19. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    #44 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    With all the new stuff, sort of forgot about 8 seconds. Japan keeper had the ball for at least 14 seconds at 75:33.
     
  20. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    #45 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    I think you can say that his higher foul bar and priority on flow is helping to produce the spectacle, to use a few buzzwords. If the proverbial plane is landed, I think Collina & co. will be quite happy.
     
  21. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    #46 Tigerpunk, Jun 14, 2026
    If he gives red there, I don't think it gets overturned or anything.
     
  22. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
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    #47 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Pretty nasty foul from Depay. Well-spotted for a yellow.
     
  23. BlueNosedRef

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    Sep 5, 2011
    #48 BlueNosedRef, Jun 14, 2026
    83' - That's fine for a YC, but starts to ask questions if he can get away with this high bar for much longer.
     
  24. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    #49 MassachusettsRef, Jun 14, 2026
    No, but he's never giving it.
     
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  25. ColoradoRef

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    Jul 10, 2011
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    United States
    #50 ColoradoRef, Jun 14, 2026
    Great great YC for that reckless challenge. No pretense of playing the ball. Loved how Elfath had the YC out immediately and from distance.
     
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