Match 104 [Final] : ESP : ARG - VINCIC (SVN)

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  1. MassachusettsRef

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    #176 MassachusettsRef, Jul 19, 2026
    He puts Argentina down a man but then takes away a Spanish goal? Is the conspiracy that he bet on penalties?
     
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  2. Pittsburgh Ref

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    #177 Pittsburgh Ref, Jul 19, 2026
    100' DR for Messi

    Yeah right
     
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  3. ColoradoRef

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    #178 ColoradoRef, Jul 19, 2026
    Last replay showed stamp to top of boot. Not clearly and obviously wrong. I’m okay with it.
     
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  4. code1390

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    #179 code1390, Jul 19, 2026
    If VAR confirms contact I guess I can love with it.
     
  5. Ismitje

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    #180 Ismitje, Jul 19, 2026
    I've been watching the whole tournament here at this bar and everyone knows I follow this chat. And we're quite interested in what you all had to say about the no goal. :)
     
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  6. GlennAA11

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    #181 GlennAA11, Jul 19, 2026
    really? looked like a "coming together" to me. They just got tangled up. That's not a stamp
     
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  7. pr0ner

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    #182 pr0ner, Jul 19, 2026
    Messi getting a yellow for booting the ball away after that foul he committed almost certainly never happens but would have been wild.
     
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  8. weka

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    #183 weka, Jul 19, 2026
    SHOTS

    Spain- 17
    Argentina- 0
     
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  9. MassachusettsRef

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    #184 MassachusettsRef, Jul 19, 2026
    Meh. It’s slight. Otamendi dramatizes because he’s on the wrong side of the play. I don’t like it. No way that’s given as a penalty.

    That said, replay does show Vincic called this and not the Martinez contact. So at least that’s good. I was worried he called the Martinez play but then VAR justified it by finding the Otamendi foul.
     
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  10. Law6

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    #185 Law6, Jul 19, 2026
    I mean, there is a stamp. The only question is whether it's the Argentine's fault.
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

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    #186 MassachusettsRef, Jul 19, 2026
    Huh?
     
  12. RedStar91

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    #187 RedStar91, Jul 19, 2026
    But if you flip it VAR is not sending that down.
     
  13. code1390

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    #188 code1390, Jul 19, 2026
    So the Balogun argument. *runs*
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

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    #189 MassachusettsRef, Jul 19, 2026
    Great no call at 104’.
     
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  15. code1390

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    #190 code1390, Jul 19, 2026
    Sure but that ship sailed long ago.
     
  16. ColoradoRef

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    #191 ColoradoRef, Jul 19, 2026
    I agree. I chose “not clearly and obviously wrong” for the reason you identify. Having given it, it’s not clearly and obviously wrong. So I’m okay with it. But I think if he hadn’t given it, there couldn’t be a lot of complaints.
     
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  17. weka

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    #192 weka, Jul 19, 2026
    Getting tired of all these people just stopping dead in the tracks and then getting trucked over and then wanting a foul
     
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  18. Bleedaggie

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    #193 Bleedaggie, Jul 19, 2026
    The Argentina guy pulled him in.
     
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  19. SouthRef

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    #194 SouthRef, Jul 19, 2026
    yeah I thought that was a foul in real time but he sees he can’t get the ball and just stops right in front of cucurella
     
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  20. MetroFever

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    #195 MetroFever, Jul 19, 2026
    Based on how this World Cup is going, they'll win on PK's with Emi scoring the game-winner.
     
  21. MassachusettsRef

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    #196 MassachusettsRef, Jul 19, 2026
    The original post had “Martinez” so I was confused.

    I also think we should discern between “stamp” and “contact on top of foot.” Those really are two different things.
     
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  22. ColoradoRef

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    #197 ColoradoRef, Jul 19, 2026
    I think you’re right

    Neither calling it nor not calling it was clearly and obviously wrong.
     
  23. Bleedaggie

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    #198 Bleedaggie, Jul 19, 2026
    ;) The second CT was undeniable. This one is sellable. But it’s a terrible call. Especially with the stuff he’s letting go at this point.
     
  24. ColoradoRef

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    #199 ColoradoRef, Jul 19, 2026
    Fair point. Don’t want to imply misconduct.
     
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  25. code1390

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    #200 code1390, Jul 19, 2026
    Love the "let me look at the down player to ignore DR"
     
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