Match 100 [QF] : ARG : SUI - PINHEIRO (POR)

Can you point me to the last diving YC given outside the penalty area without VAR in a World Cup? My instinct is that this is not a call any referee ever makes under any circumstances, but I’m happy to be proven wrong

 

That was a yes/no question about the Paredes card, not the dive.

 

FIFA might need to start looking for a new HQ

 

Who gives a crap what the history of non-PK diving cards has been? This deserved it. End of story.

Okay. Am I happy Pinhiero gave a card incorrectly even though it let him punish the dive? No, I'm not happy he got the initial call wrong.

 

Punishing diving is a fantastic use of VAR.

 

The problem with saying “who cares” is that it means there’s a different standard for diving yellows when the referee blows the call originally than when he doesn’t. Which is completely arbitrary and, IMO, unsupportable

 

If VAR can call down simulation, I think it’s got to be called something other than “Mistaken Identity,” which seems to me like “you gave the card to #5 but #7 committed the foul,” not “ you got fooled by a dive.”

 

I’d be fine with this if you made all dives reviewable. But it’s arbitrary to do it only when the ref screws up and gives a yellow to the other team

 

Ok, so two decades ago. Kind of proves the point—this is not a call anyone makes today absent VAR

 

i thought second YCs are reviewable by VAR , so shouldn't he have gotten a YC even if Parades didn't receive a YC or do dives don't warrant a yellow card ?

 

why does it have to be "screwing up" to have been fooled by a player who is trying to cheat?

This is another offshoot of the reluctance to call anything in the name of "flow"

 

Is anyone saying "obvious dive" considering the possibility that he's leaping to avoid getting kicked? Or what you would look for to distinguish the two?

 

That would be great. But at the moment, you can only review dives when the dives have particularly bad consequences, which I don’t find arbitrary at all.

 

Donovan kept saying that Paredes was coming in fast and with force, which is why Embolo dove (to avoid getting slammed into). But the replay shows Paredes was well in control, allowing Embolo to go away from goal in a harmless position along the line. That he was a looming danger for Embolo is a false narrative IMO.

(I get that sometimes this is the case, that hard tackles endanger attacking players at times.)

 

Even if Paredes had fouled Embolo there, giving him a yellow for what would have been a trip that wasn't reckless was ridiculous.

 

That wasn't a foul it was messi running into a player and if there's a goal here oh my g'd

 

102' is kinda interesting. I'd call it "stamp adjacent" based on the replay they eventually showed

 

Looks like Gonzalez got both ankles stepped on on a play where Pinheiro just told him to get up in the play @Chaik referenced.

 

he was diving slightly left and kicked his right foot out into the opponent. I doubt he was avoiding contact while creating it.

 

The foul recognition is absolutely shocking

 

Maybe initially. But long term, I think it would improve the sport as players adjust/realize they cannot get away with it.