Match 1: MEX : RSA - SAMPAIO (BRA)

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  1. BTtotheP

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    It admittedly wasn't his strong point.
     
  2. soccerref69420

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    What does sampaio do that is strange, whistle-wise?
     
  3. nick p

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    We need more referees to officiate like him Overall great performance from him and all the team
     
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  4. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    He blows it like 6-15 times at most stoppages.
     
  5. Soccer Dad & Ref

    Oct 19, 2017
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    Not a fan of that style. Especially at tournaments with multiple fields
     
  6. soccerref69420

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    Ah yes I see it I nthe highlights now. Very odd.




    23 minute highlight package. I see you guys were complaining about the first yellow card being soft. It’s clear. All the cards were clear, only disappointing thing was not calling a foul for the impeding with contact by the Mexico player for a FK for South Africa who drew the violent conduct against him. I don’t think it would be a SPA YC on its own but still should be a foul for them
     
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  7. soccerref69420

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    That’s a wild lunge late. Easy YC
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  8. code1390

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  9. StarTime

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    The DOGSO is, not quite a hundred percent, but very much close enough to 100% for me that I’d expect a VAR to intervene if it’s not given. Especially with the law change that opens up the positions of other attackers to be considered as a factor. The screenshot above really shows it.

    I really think the commentators got duped by the mirage of backtracking defenders after the attacker’s momentum had been halted. And perhaps their commentary is coloring some fans’ perspectives. But it’s clearly DOGSO and is a very good decision from Sampaio.
     
  10. Pittsburgh Ref

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    da 'Burgh
    Gotta go back and look at that, don't remember anything in the run-up
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

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    People were complaining about the second yellow card at 23’. They’re wrong but it’s not that one.
     
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  12. soccerref69420

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    It wasn’t in the run up, it was the foul itself. The Mexico player deliberately stopped and stuck his ass out backwards to stop the South Africa player getting around him which elicited the slap in the face to get around him. Should have been a FK (but probably not enough for SPA) for South Africa.

    Ah I thought it was 17’. I guess that’s why I like when people write the minute of whatever incident they’re talking about in these threads. There’s no replay in the highlights package, if I can get the full video I’ll try to post it
     
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  13. SouthRef

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    Blatter would never
     
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  14. Pittsburgh Ref

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    I was just coming back to post similar! Live I didn't see it, nor on in-game replay, but looking at your clip the impeding is clear. Live, I thought the Mexican player was static.

    ...I wonder if impeding there would have been a harder sell than DOGSO that was given, or if not a hard sell, more likely to run afoul of received wisdom from on high.
     
  15. Metropolitan

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    In 1994, the US had already asked for commercial breaks in the middle of each half, but FIFA refused. It was still Havelange but Blatter was pretty much the continuation of him.
    https://onefootball.com/en/news/fif...ed-our-game-to-american-broadcasters-42069709

    The second red was given by VAR, so to me the message is pretty clear that FIFA will be much stricter on misconduct this time than it was in 2022. Only 4 red cards were show in Qatar, and all of them at the very end of games.
     
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  16. code1390

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    I actually forgot about the DOGSO tweak. The free attacker in the center of the penalty area becomes part of the considerations.

    Screenshot_20260611_195000_Laws of the Game.jpg
     
  17. MassachusettsRef

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    Sure, but... how?

    I haven't seen detailed instruction yet on how/when to take the positioning of the attackers into consideration. The supporting attacker is 25 yards from goal. At this very point, he's not a good passing option at all. But he is in a few strides after they enter the penalty area. Of course, by the time they enter the area, what are the chances that the two defenders nearby could close on him (much better than closing on the ball, at the very least).

    On this particular play, I don't think anything should be over contemplated. If that attacker just keeps going to goal, he has a shot from a good angle in a one-on-one situation. It's DOGSO without any change. How to factor in "support attackers" is a very interesting academic question that seems to be in need of immediate instruction (because if it was explicitly added to the Laws, it is obviously supposed to be of some consequence). But it doesn't make a difference here.
     
  18. socal lurker

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    I agree on this play. But it’s not to hard to see a situation where there is an easy pass to a teammate in great scoring position or where the “covering” defender would be in a 2 on 1 or even 3 on 1 unable to take away the OGSO. I kinda felt when it came out that this wasn’t so much a scenario to look for, but one that would jump out and grab you.
     
  19. SCV-Ref

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    I guess tomorrow we will find out if this is FIFA setting the tone (I kinda hope it is) or whether this was all on Sampaio's shoulders.
     
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  20. MassachusettsRef

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    How? What does tomorrow have to do with it specifically?

    Also, the man had two DOGSO situations in his match and a VAR VC send-down. I realize he gave three reds, but I think "setting the tone" is a little (perhaps a lot) misplaced here. Every referee in this tournament (and on this board) gives the first red. The second one is a send down that just isn't going to get rejected. So that leaves the third red, which is a great technical call once you look at it. Maybe that's the only one someone at FIFA doesn't like because of the cumulative nature of the decisions, but that someone isn't going to be in the Refereeing Department.

    It's not like Sampaio came out here with 38 fouls, 10 yellows (with 2 of them for dissent), and a penalty. He really just sort of refereed what was in front of him and had the bad/good luck to have 3 pretty clear red card situations all in the same match.
     
  21. socal lurker

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    IMHO, the second one coming down from VAR is the biggest indicator that FiFA has given some directives about crack downs. I think that would likely come down to the R in MLS, but I’m doubtful it would in the PL. I think it will be interesting to see if that card turns out to be an outlier, or an expectation. (I think it is a FIFA expectation, but I guess time will tell as far as VAR intervention).
     
  22. MassachusettsRef

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    Well, the issue is now that whether it is expectation or not, everyone saw it in the first match.

    When VAR first came online, there was a suggestion that it would almost completely eliminate the stupidest of off-the-ball VC because it would catch it all the time with no exceptions. We know that hasn't been true. But in a tournament setting, if the very first opportunity for a VC red card call resulted in a VC red card... I think teams will have to take notice. It might not curb all behavior like this, which stems from situational frustration, but it might make more than one player think twice.

    Long way of saying I'm not sure how many more similar situtations you'll see. Both because it's a World Cup and players tend to be on better behavior generally and because now a big warning sign has been posted in match 1, too.

    Separately, agree it likely doesn't get sent down in PL. Neither does the third one. So I think maybe that's what will be jarring for EPL consumers... you don't get three red cards there. But you do in a lot of other leagues, I think.
     
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  23. soccerref69420

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    I agree. "Tone setter" is usually a phrase used strictly for physicality in my experience, and therefore only the VC from this match would qualify. DOGSO decisions aren't "tone setters"

    You want to see a tone setter, see the ref from the Brazil-USA women's "friendly" a few days ago.
     
  24. MassachusettsRef

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    This is a separate conversation and one that I deliberately engage on in the other forum because I just didn't have the time. But from what i've seen, I disagree with this. I saw at least two passages in the first half where she let things escalate and ended up with a card or cards to players who probably should have got calls in their favor earlier. I think she let too much go, from what I saw, and it resulted in a lot of misconduct. Can't excuse the technical area behavior and good for her and her team for addressing it. But if you saw that performance in the opener of a WWC, I don't think we'd be saying she "set a tone." I think we'd be saying she lost control.
     
  25. soccerref69420

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    I found a full recording of it, I may watch the entire thing to see that. I only had the highlights package, which is what my tone setting was talking about (especially the two FRD cards)
     

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