Mastroeni to Tenerife

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by Horizon, May 13, 2003.

  1. Horizon

    Horizon New Member

    Nov 20, 2000
    New York City
    Radio Unica said last night that Pablo Mastroeni
    will join Tenerife (Spain 2nd div.) next season.

    The question is whether Mastroeni will finish the
    MLS season or leave the Rapids mid-August?
     
  2. Rapids/Arsenal Fan

    Mar 8, 2001
    Denver, CO USA
    I'll believe this when I see it happen. But I'm sure he'll leave one of these days.
     
  3. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate to say this, but cool!

    Tenerife is one of the clubs in Spain that periodically switches between the first and second division. They are located in the Canary Islands. Right now, their prospects don't look good to get promoted this year (they are 10th right now, with 44 points. The lowest of the 3 promotion spots, Zaragoza, has 63.)

    He could really give Tenerife a boost, but I am thinking they are probably looking to rebuild their team after moving down from the first division two years ago.

    Don't know much about them other than that. The preseason for the '03-'04 season usually starts in late July in Spain. If they are really planning on signing him, they will have to buy him off of the Rapids in midseason.
     
  4. Go2NY

    Go2NY New Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Croton-on-Hudson NY
    Tenerife is known for finding young talent, which ends up graduating to big Spanish clubs

    A Dutch U20 Nats player by the name of Roy Maakay, went to Tenerife for two seasons, before graduating to La Liga.
     
  5. MD_05

    MD_05 New Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    Ohio
    sucks to be a Rapids fan this year
     
  6. McGinty

    McGinty Member

    SKC/STL
    Aug 29, 2001
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Hmmm...Igor Simutenkov got out of Tenerife to come to MLS after Tenerife was relegated.

    I'll also go with the I'll believe it if it happens outlook as well.
     
  7. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He did announce that he now has his EU passport, so really I can see this happening.
     
  8. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mastroeni could do better than Tenerife.

    He can play in La Liga.
     
  9. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    When is Pablo's contract up?

    If this is the last year, MLS might as well sell him in the summer and get something for him. Otherwise, he just walks at the end of the season.

    If he isn't out of contract at the end of the year, what do we thing MLS would want for him?
     
  10. greenie

    greenie New Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    Right, because that $60K or whatever MLS got by selling Hahnemann right at the end of his contract did the league such a whole lot of good.

    If MLS is not going to make a concerted effort to re-sign Pablo, or the guy is going to leave anyway, then I'd just as soon they go ahead and sell him now. They'll make more off the sale and his departure won't hurt Colorado as much today as it would come late August.
     
  11. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He would very likely make about the same, or even better money in Tenerife. And if they make a run at promotion to La Liga next year, he'll be the only US Nat in arguably the best league in the world.

    Tab Ramos had a similar situation when he played for Real Betis in the early 90's, as they fluctuated between second division and La Liga. The Spanish second division is very competitive, certainly on par with the MLS, probably better. As much as I would love to see Pablo make a move to a more established club in Spain (Malaga has no money, or I would root for them to sign him), most teams in Spain are in the same boat, without a lot of cash to throw around at big signings. I wouldn't be surprised if the right offer came along from Tenerife, if he took it.
     
  12. OriginalAEK

    OriginalAEK New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Syracuse, NY
    Mastroeni can hold his own, but don't get carried away. And another thing is, there doesn't seem to be any other club that has expressed interest. I hope, if this is true of course, that he does go and does very well. I like Pablo. Great potential.
     
  13. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    How quickly people forget. Didn't watch the World Cup last summer, huh? You really should have.
     
  14. OriginalAEK

    OriginalAEK New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Syracuse, NY
    Like I said, he can hold his own. But there is a difference between playing for a club team and playing in an international match. League play is always more physical, especially in Spain. I'm not saying that it isn't physical in international play but you better be in better shape than you are in MLS. I've only seem Pablo play once this season and he didn't impress me. I just don't want him to turn into a Kirovski if you know what i'm saying.
     
  15. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    Mastroeni, from what I know, is under contract through Jan. 2005. This season and next.
     
  16. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    League play is more physical than the World Cup? That's craziness...nothing is more physical than the WC, in that heat, those games were ferocious.

    More physical than MLS? Without a doubt, but Pablo will adjust to that within a few weeks.
     
  17. OriginalAEK

    OriginalAEK New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Syracuse, NY
    My point is, the season is long and i mean long in la liga and the physical play can catch up to you very quickly. I think la liga and the premier league can rival the world cup as far as physical play goes.
     
  18. Quaker

    Quaker Member+

    FC Dallas
    Apr 19, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Pablo's just sick of John Harkes mispronouncing his name Mastri-oni. Hey Captain America, you've had several years and a World Cup to learn it. It's Mastro-eni!
     
  19. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Stop digging.

    Pablo Mastroeni was very sound and strong in the World Cup (the game's big stage) and he could play in any league n the world. Learn to live with that and enjoy it, in fact.
     
  20. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Phil Ball wrote a good article on players like Mastroeni on soccernet this week. Spaniards do appreciate players of Pablo's caliber, the "hunting dogs", so to speak.

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=266935&cc=5901 And check out the first picture, put the afro on Pablo and those guys are dead ringers for separated-at-birth....

    Going by this article, and from my own experience living in Spain, Pablo would really be able to find a place on a Spanish side, if they chose to pursue him and I could see him becoming a fan favorite for his work rate and ability to generate turnovers and play hard. He could really thrive in Spain, and if he must leave the Rapids (don't want to see him go) I hope he gets a shot at playing in La Liga.
     
  21. Horizon

    Horizon New Member

    Nov 20, 2000
    New York City
    I think that Mastroeni can improve a lot even
    in Spain 2nd Division, where a midfielder is
    required to win/hold/pass the ball better than in
    MLS. No more errand passes, "red card type"
    slide tackles, etc. He will be more important to
    the US attack than he is rigth now playing MLS.
     
  22. ricv56

    ricv56 New Member

    Jan 4, 2003
    Bellflower
    I don't doubt that Mastroeni could play and play well on a La Liga side. That said, however, Tenerife would be a great fit for him. Half the battle in going abroad is just getting on the field consistently. At a place like Tenerife, he could likely plug right in and his level of play would be of primary concern as opposed to his trying to deal with the additional pressure of cracking a starting lineup.

    ricv56
     
  23. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Maybe. But clubs may not be willing to gamble until he's proven that he can play well in a league better than the MLS.
     
  24. Pichi

    Pichi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 17, 1999
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    Real Betis
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Tab Ramos never played in Primera. He came to Betis from Figueras and Betis was in Segunda. He was injured during the latter part of the 93-94 season when Betis under the reins of Lorenzo Serra Ferrer earned 20 out of a possible 22 points during the last 11 games of the season to win promotion to Primera. Serra Ferrer did not ask that Tabs contract be renewed and told the directors that Tab did not fit into his plans for the upcoming year. He was probably right as that next year Betis finished third in the liga in what was their best season since winning their only liga in the 1934-35 season.

    I have always said that the MLS is comparable to the mid level teams of segunda division.

    Saludos y viva er beti manque lopera!

    Pichi
     
  25. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did they specify whether it was a transfer or an offseason loan with an option to purchase?
     

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