Massimiliano Allegri next Manager for Italy? What do you think?

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Mean Machine, Mar 25, 2022.

  1. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    insanity. he should be starting every week and ship Alex Sandro out
     
  2. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

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    Jan 14, 2007
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    I read this tweet just as Gasperini inserted Scalvini (18) into an EL quarter final game.

     
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  3. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    Allegri is a clown of the highest order
     
  4. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

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    Don Carlo would be epic but why would he leave Real madrid?

    Capello returning would be interesting. he's just super old
     
  5. indestructible

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    This substitution is a perfect summation of dinosaur Italian management.

    1520814356711280641 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  6. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

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    Hysterical!
     
  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    #32 falvo, May 2, 2022
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    I don't get it.

    Putting in a defender in for a forward at the end of the game to preserve the win?

    Why is that a bad thing?
     
  8. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

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    Jan 14, 2007
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    Because mighty Juventus should be whooping last place Venezia and not making desperate subs with 11 minutes on the clock. If you can't see the irony of subbing in a 38 year old for a young striker you just spent 70 million on... you're not going to make it.

    Allegri's style is ISIS ball
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    Every game is different and none are easy.

    Chiellini is or was Italy's best defender until a month ago and the captain of the national team. He would have started in the World Cup had Italy made the tournament.

    Also there were only 12 minutes left in the game.

    You always put in a defender to preserve a win.

    That has been going on for as long as I remember.

    I don't see why it's a big deal.
     
  10. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

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    No you don't always put in a defender to preserve a lead. Managers who usually do this end up getting burned. This isn't the 1990's. Spalletti is a guy who hasn't learned this lesson as he has made this mistake more than once and in high profile games.
     
  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

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    Not always but many managers do and continue to do so.

    The game was close and Allegri wanted to preserve a win.

    I think this is all an exaggeration and overblown.
     
  12. indestructible

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    you're not going to make it
     
  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    So if Allegri were to take a risk and Venezia tied then what?

    They had to wait until next week?

    Juve won and qualified for the CL with this win.

    I don't the reasoning.
     
  14. indestructible

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    Falvo, if you don't see it, you never will
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    #40 falvo, May 2, 2022
    Last edited: May 2, 2022
    It makes no sense.

    No I don't see it because the game was close.

    I mean there were 12 minutes left and Juve was leading only by a score of 2-1 and they ended up winning.

    Of course you always need to preserve a win why would he want to risk a tie or even a loss?

    This has been going on since as long as I've followed the game.
     
  16. SF19

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    Jun 8, 2013
    If the opponent was a top team, it might make more sense. When the opponent is last place, the aim should be to score more goals, not preserve the lead.
     
  17. falvo

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    #42 falvo, May 9, 2022
    Last edited: May 9, 2022
    This is not Juventus from 2011–2020 but rather 2022.

    It's a completely different group.

    Maybe if they played more defensively with a counterattack, they will not have lost to Genoa.

    Of course, you play not to lose when you are leading and the game is close.

    This has been going on in Italy since I started following the Serie A in the early 80's and nothing new.
     
  18. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Italy missed out on the 2022 World Cup due to a failure to score any goals against Northern Macedonia. Would Allegri have done better in Mancini's shoes? Considering his tactical decisions against Venezia, I have a hard time believing it.
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    Mancini won the Euro using the same tactics.

    Sadly, Allegri will have not done better.

    The problem with Italy is employing too many foreign players at attacking and midfield positions.

    That is a true problem that no one wants to admit.

    Arrigo Sacchi was criticized for picking 95 players in the mid 90's but I don't think there are that many starting Italian players in the entire Serie A.
     
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  20. Matt E6

    Matt E6 Member

    AC Milan
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    Apr 5, 2022
    There were no shortage of chances and the failure started much earlier.

    Are you suggesting Mancini's Euro tactics and Allegri's Juventus tactics are on in the same?
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    No! I never really thought about it either way.

    Nor did or do I ever foresee Allegri managing Italy.

    I also don't think Max wants to be CT.
     

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