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Discussion in 'Pro Indoor Soccer' started by Scooge, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. firesting81

    firesting81 Member

    Jan 16, 2001
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    And they signed Tony Walls away from the Wave as well.
     
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  2. FifaMan328

    FifaMan328 Member

    Dec 5, 2008
    Update from the Heat front...

    http://hh1.glitnirticketing.com/hhticket/web/stadiumg.php?event_id=41&status_id=2&refresh=1477579525

    25 more RED DOTS are now appearing from last week. Wow. Obviously the new Heat aren't selling group tickets to all the local youth in the Burg. They are posting great new info on Facebook and online.. but isn't that pretty much preaching to the choir?

    They've had months to sell, have the Blast coming up (accounts for about 150-200 tickets I'm sure) and looks like an Opening Night crowd of 1400

    Kind of Sad to be honest
     
  3. NSL2004

    NSL2004 Member+

    Jul 23, 2002
    But when they announce 3,200 everyone will hail it as a success.
     
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  4. SteveCo

    SteveCo Member

    Mar 23, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some teams probably count 'tickets distributed ' as tickets 'sold', even if a lot of distributed tickets don't get used. So stacks of tickets handed out to schools, sponsors, etc may not end up with more than 30% actually used to attend the game in many cases. Rochester (now defunct) used to let kids below a certain age attend games free (and likely ruffled the feathers of soccer parents when they started requiring tickets for kids). With minor league sports, there is a lot of fuzzy math that goes into 'announced' attendance.
     
  5. Scott717257

    Scott717257 Member

    Nov 28, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    And meanwhile in Turlock, they will average 200 people a night and Syd will scream and shout how keeping them around is GOOD for the league lmao.

    The hypocrisy of some in indoor soccer, especially on this board and the facebook group is laughable.
     
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  6. SteveCo

    SteveCo Member

    Mar 23, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the mid-2000s , the St. Louis Steamers (2004-2006) handed out free tickets to homeless people . I know this, because they were standing in front of the arena selling tickets marked 'complimentary'. No disrespect to those who are homeless , but I am not sure that was a winning idea to increase the base of paying fans. Maybe a sponsor handed them out to these folks, I don't know. I do know that the team suddenly folded after the 2006 season. People who had paid deposits on season tickets for the following season never saw their money again . At least after Wichita had everyone working/playing for free for most of their last ignominious season, no attempt was made to sell any tickets for the following year.
     
  7. NSL2004

    NSL2004 Member+

    Jul 23, 2002
    Tell me why 500 in Harrisburg is better than 500 in Turlock?
     
  8. the shelts

    the shelts Member+

    Jun 30, 2005
    Providence RI
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Well it doesn't fit his narrative.........
     
  9. Scooge

    Scooge Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Big Sky Country
    Club:
    Portland MLS
    MASL - Average Attendance

    2015-16
    Harrisburg - 2,029
    Turlock - 416

    2014-15
    Harrisburg - 2,989
    Turlock - 502
     
  10. NSL2004

    NSL2004 Member+

    Jul 23, 2002
    But as we've just discussed the Heat only have about 500 tickets out so far regardless of what they announce. Would you feel better about Turlock if they just said 2,500 people were at their games? If I tell you I'm 6'11" can I get an NBA roster spot?

    Indoor teams seem to move a lot of tickets the final week before a game so maybe there is still some hope for the Heat opener.
     
  11. powerplay13

    powerplay13 Member

    Mar 17, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Really like the new MASL website, I have been using the old MASL/pointstreak site (site from last year). Just happened to stubble upon the new site tonight. Now if they could just get GSL to work properly for all games.
    http://www.maslsoccer.com/
     
  12. cardshopmd

    cardshopmd Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Baltimore
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    With all of the losing season for the Heat, It's going to take a while to get the fan base back it will not happen overnight. Honestly as many times as the blast crushed the Heat the past few seasons if you were a heat fan would you want to see it again at the home opener ?. Once the heat prove they can win the Fans will come back.

    The heat will be the team to watch this year , They will hurt someone's chances of making the playoffs They may finish in the Eastern division with 5 or 6 wins. But the team will be a lot more competitive than in the past.
     
  13. Scott717257

    Scott717257 Member

    Nov 28, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Harrisburg averaged 2-3K people last 2 years while Turlock simply has not.

    The only narrative around here shelts is when presented with facts people like Syd say the facts are skewed and ignore them. Turlock is a team Syd has said needs to stay and it gets 200-500 people a game...he's also the same guy who knocks Harrisburg and takes every shot he can get at Baltimore attendance (but you will see him at most games played in Baltimore, hmmm). Hypocrite.
     
  14. NSL2004

    NSL2004 Member+

    Jul 23, 2002
    Sydney Nusinov 11,397

    I have the best attendance in the league by Scott's logic. I mean it says so right there.
     
  15. Scott717257

    Scott717257 Member

    Nov 28, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I don't get it... maybe it's because facts were presented that don't support your argument so you try to come up with something witty instead of addressing this? I mean.. at least admit you have double standards. The East has to draw 3000+ or they suck... and out West and down South 200-400 per game is a fine MASL franchise.
     
  16. NSL2004

    NSL2004 Member+

    Jul 23, 2002
    You're not getting it so I'll try one last time. Harrisburg has (or had) 500 tickets out for their opener. But you think that is somehow good because they will announce 3000 and Turlock will only announce 500 for roughly the same exact crowd.

    Which isn't to say all the Heat games are so bad, but there are a handful of teams who badly fail the eyeball test and attendance can be apples and oranges from team to team. There is no uniformity whatsoever.
     
  17. Scott717257

    Scott717257 Member

    Nov 28, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    If the Heat actually have only 500, yes, that is disastrous. Let's see walk up crowd, and this final week sales before we call it 500 though shall we? Their average again over 2 years is WAY above a team like Turlock who you've defended numerous times.

    Again, the facts state they averaged 2-3K over the last 2 years... yet you fail to address that, and when you do its the old "doesnt pass my eye ball test" bs.
     
  18. FifaMan328

    FifaMan328 Member

    Dec 5, 2008
    Scott- I don't want to get in a pissing match or write a nine page Op-Ed... but I will tell you one thing

    The Harrisburg Heat DID NOT average 2-3k per game. PERIOD. END OF STORY. I was at 4-5 games last year.. and those games they would announce 2100, or 2500+... that was a 400% Markup. I physically counted 674 one game... and the box score showed over 2000.

    Maybe they handed out 2k free tickets to schools and charities and counted them?

    So on paper to the next sucker.. sorry INVESTOR it looks much better to say you averaged 2-3k and not 600.

    Turlock and others you can't hide 2000 under the bleachers. You get what you get.. which is no better than Harrisburg.

    With the Heat's home opener in only 3 days, there are approximately 500 tickers sold. Don't let Pointstreak fool you my man !

    In the words of the great James Hetfield.... you know its SAD BUT TRUE
     
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  19. Scott717257

    Scott717257 Member

    Nov 28, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    There may have been games lower than announced crowd, something ALL teams do (despite claims some have that its only Baltimore) but they also had games in which they for sure had 2,000 or more. And this was a team that was horrid, the worst in the league.

    I just don't get why Turlock is ok to play in the MASL and everything is great.. but Harrisburg continues to be laughed at.
     
  20. cardshopmd

    cardshopmd Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Baltimore
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The heat also does not sell tickets through ticketmaster. Honestly they will not draw bigger crowds until they start winning games.
     
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  21. SteveCo

    SteveCo Member

    Mar 23, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does the Heat have a sales staff that is actively working to sell tickets? How many community events , kids soccer tournaments , etc are the Heat setting up staffed promotion tables? Do the Heat have the 'get your kids soccer team to sell 100+ tickets & the team can play rugrat soccer on the field before the game' deals?

    I agree that the Heat need to win more games, but agree also with Ken that success in selling tickets is also significantly tied to how much effort the team puts into sales. A team that frequently interacts with the community through players coaching soccer/visiting schools, running promo tables at public events, partnering with soccer academies/teams, etc will generate more sales over the long term than a team that posts a few things on social media but doesn't get the 'boots on the ground'. I wish the Heat the best of luck and hope they can turn hints around .
     
  22. HBG-Heat

    HBG-Heat Member

    Mar 3, 2014
    Harrisburg Area
    Club:
    Harrisburg City Isl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CBS 21 Video: Harrisburg Heat Make Big Changes
    By Joel Smith | CBS 21 News

    After just one win last year, the Harrisburg Heat have made some major changes. There is a new owner, a new head coach, tons of new players, and even new uniforms.

    Yet the biggest change by far, is the amount of time the team is actually spending on the field. Joel D. Smith met up with the Heat’s Head Coach Denison Cabral (someone he’s known for 20 years), to learn more about what style fans can expect and why finally there is an even playing field in Harrisburg.

    http://harrisburgheat.com/cbs-21-video-harrisburg-heat-make-big-changes/

    Source: CBS 21
     
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  23. KDraw

    KDraw Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    Club:
    Harrisburg City Isl.
    I want to go to the Heat home opener...I really do...but I haven't fully decided yet. Both Messiah College soccer teams (women and men) are competing in their conference final Saturday night (5pm and 7:30pm respectively). Messiah has a rich tradition of winning National Championships in soccer. So...do I pay $15-$20 to go watch the Heat lose against the Blast or for $5 do I see both Messiah teams win their conference championship? What would you do?
     
  24. KDraw

    KDraw Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    Club:
    Harrisburg City Isl.
    Oh...by the way...check out the attendance figure on Messiah's game versus Elizabethtown College...
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  25. Scooge

    Scooge Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Big Sky Country
    Club:
    Portland MLS
    Tacoma Stars

    New(er) turf - couldn't find a better pic at this moment:
    field.jpg

    New intro video:


    Both look pretty good, as well as their performance last Saturday versus Sonora.
     
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