As the Saints go Marsching In: Jesse Marsch rumored to lead race for Southampton job

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Academy' started by BostonRed, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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  2. ArsenalMetro

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  3. areathrasher

    areathrasher Member

    Mar 26, 2014
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    Good for him...and the eastern conference ;)
     
  4. BostonRed

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  5. Gamecock14

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    Does this count as the Bob Bradley coaching tree?
     
  6. ArsenalMetro

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    He was an assistant for Bob with the national team, so I'd say yes.
     
  7. soccerusa517

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    Red Bull needs to sell the team. Big disconnect between ownership and fans. Treated like 2nd rate and not a priority.
     
  8. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

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    And played under him at Chivas USA and Princeton.
     
  9. eliwood

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    Third rate now ;)
     
  10. ArsenalMetro

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    Well...because they aren't a priority. They serve to improve Red Bull Global, which now has a Bundesliga team on the cusp of Champions League qualification, and an Austrian Bundesliga team that regularly competes in Europe. A team in MLS should be the third-highest priority among that group. What's the benefit for spending big money and winning in MLS? You get a CCL berth! Who cares? Spending on the Euro-based teams gets you continental tournament prize and TV money. There's incentive to spend.

    If RBNY can aid the Austrian and German causes on a relatively small budget (which, with moves like Marsch to Salzburg, it will), then the system is working.

    If fans start to abandon the team in droves, which is the exact opposite of what has happened since the move to RBA, then maybe Red Bull will sell. Until then, why would they?

    The other side of a prospective sale is, if Red Bull sells, who's going to buy? You're looking at a huge price tag for a club that's established in New York and has the best soccer stadium in the country. The organizations with the budget to do that and the willingness to spend that money on soccer are largely limited to other Euro clubs. PSG-NY or Barcelona NY isn't any better than RBNY.
     
  11. BirdsonFire

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    And Chicago...

    And wasn't he at DC while Bob was the assistant?
     
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  12. SUDano

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    Can we have a coaching subsection with coaches abroad. They are not kids in an academy. They're grown ass men.
    If not why aren't they just in the general Yanks abroad section.
     
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  13. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

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    I agree completely.

    The rule should be simple:

    If a coach is coaching a first team in Europe (Enochs, Wagner) or a senior national team (Dooley, and maybe Bradley with Norway) he should be in the main YA forum because he is coaching adults.

    If a coach is coaching a youth national team abroad (no Americans doing this right now) or a club's youth team (Cherundolo at Hannover) then he should in the academy forum on the basis of coaching young players.

    To put them in academy is silly.
     
  14. chrome_vapors

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered by it haha.
     
  15. largegarlic

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    Jul 2, 2007
    I think it would be pretty cool if Marsch is able to make this move. After Bradley's firing, I was pessimistic about US coaches getting much of a shot in Europe again and figured the next US coach to get a chance would have to be someone who played there extensively (e.g., Cherundolo).

    I hadn't considered this pathway to a Euro coaching gig.
     
  16. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

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    Not happening.. from what I have heard (along with what many others have heard as well)

    Good news for the Red Bulls.
     
  17. Gorky

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    Well Marsch himself denied it. If you believe twitter.

     
  18. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

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    Rochester, NY
    Jesse Marsch falsely going to Red Bulls Salzburg is in Yanks Abroad Academy.
    Then let's put Bruce Arena as new head coach for USMNT in College and Amateur Soccer.
     
  19. BostonRed

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  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    How would you know and why would you care? You live in Ohio!!!
     
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  21. ArsenalMetro

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    To be continued the minute Oscar Garcia leaves Salzburg.
     
  22. BostonRed

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    http://ussoccerplayers.com/2017/01/what-does-red-bull-mean-for-american-soccer-mls-coaching.html

    In the aftermath, people in the know backed the Marsch to Salzburg story. The idea of an American MLS head coach getting a move to Europe via these specific relationships is interesting. Marsch wasn’t discussed as a possible hire for just any club. Instead, it was a move within the same corporate umbrella. That made the opportunity unique.

    We all know it's not easy for American soccer coaches working in Europe. Bob Bradley's brief run in charge of Swansea City is the latest example. There's no benefit of the doubt and few clear opportunities. That's what makes the Marsch scenario so interesting. Maybe the answer for American soccer coaches lies in an unlikely place: Globalization.

    When clubs fall under the same organizational umbrella, it naturally breaks down some of the barriers that prevent movement of a coach from the American league to one overseas. The organization already has knowledge of the coach’s skill set. Switching him from one club in the portfolio to another eliminates cost.
     
  23. BostonRed

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  24. BostonRed

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    United States
    And the rumor resurfaces:
     
  25. ArsenalMetro

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    Bild is kind of trash, but I'll say that my stomach dropped when I saw this thread come up with a new post.
     
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