Marked Improvement or Just Lucky?

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by ringshot, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. ringshot

    ringshot New Member

    Sep 14, 2005
    Broomfield, CO
    So after several games we've seen some decent results as well as significant gaffs.

    Personally, I think the team has improved quite a bit in confidence and cohesion, but I can't honestly say that this is the reason for our decent results. We are still seeing defensive gaffs, long balls over the middle, and Mehdi's inconsistancy, but are these just "knocking of the rust" of the pre-season?

    So, it may be a bit early, but I put it to you all: have we improved markedly or are we just lucky?

    G'Day...Ron :D

    PS: I almost put a "Both" option, but decided it would be a cop-out!
     
  2. Quinn 33

    Quinn 33 Member+

    Apr 25, 2003
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Form what little we've seen of them, I think we're moving in a positive direction on the field. I think we're still missing a few pieces to the puzzle, but I think there is more cohesion and confidence in the team. Good teams are able to make their own luck, so we'll see how things play out.
     
  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then I'm copping out. ;)

    We've improved but we've been lucky to play some bad teams, or at least teams playing badly.
     
  4. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    Its way too early, if they can keep the "June swoon" at bay then I think we have something.
     
  5. Cos_Mos

    Cos_Mos Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Broomfield
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm really copping out! I've got 3 choices:
    Last year we were a little unlucky. (We were "in" just about every game and were better than several playoff teams including RSL & NY)
    This year we are a little better. (Confidence & maturity)
    This year we have been a little lucky. (A floundering LA & Banged up KC)
    All this adds up to a good start.
     
  6. Jimmydinho

    Jimmydinho Member+

    Jul 6, 2007
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I must abstain as it is "early doors" yet.
     
  7. Bridgeman

    Bridgeman Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Feb 25, 2006
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would really like to see the defense tighten up. They seem to lose a bit of focus at times. The midfield is inconsistent as well. But they still look better which shows how bad they were the last few yrs. I'm enjoying it so far...Go Rapids!
     
  8. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too early to praise or criticize.

    I do think that Casey and Omar are looking pretty good together.
     
  9. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, another couple of games will be a better indicator. We've started pretty well in the past. In 2007, I think the Rapids were either 2-0-1 or 2-1-0 out of the gate, and we know how that turned out.

    Road wins are very positive, so at least the Rapids have one under their belts, but I'd like to see what they look like in a couple of weeks against opposition without the rotting stench of the Galaxy.

    Too early. 7 games would be a reasonable early checkpoint, I think. A balance of more than 1 or 2 home and road games, and a feeling for if this team is beginning to hit a groove.
     
  10. wahleyed

    wahleyed New Member

    Oct 9, 2007
    Lakewood
    I'd say both, but it does seem like we're creating more scoring chances this year and I go into games KNOWING we're going to have chances. Hasn't always been that way the past few years.
     
  11. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    I am in the decided minority that clicked on the luck option. What ever happened to 'rather be lucky than good'? One loss in a match where we looked as if we had wasted the entire pre-season. One at home win against a disinterested 'B' side of what may end up being a mid-table team. And two road wins against what is probably the worst defense in the league and maybe the worst team overall. One of them against their 'B' side (with our 'B' version as well to be fair) that would have been a draw if it had been a regular league match. Gutting the draw out with 10 men away from home is something to be proud of but luck does rhyme with another word that decribes what LA does (right now anyway). To be even more objective sure we played with 10 men but they played with Jovan - that mystical place where attacks go to die. ;>)
     
  12. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teamwork has improved and coaching has improved helping them win games. However, I disagree that we have seen enough to really tell. A 3-1 overall record with one scoreless draw ending in penalties isn't anything to jump for joy over. Lets revisit this after 10 games.
     
  13. Home n dry

    Home n dry New Member

    Apr 18, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'm copping out, too. But though luck and suck (the Gals) are definite factors, remember that these wins have come as a result of some timely goals in situations where last year's Rapids would have just floundered or folded.

    Let's see after the big road trip is over.
     
  14. Waterboy14

    Waterboy14 Member

    Mar 29, 2006
    This is the disappointing thing about not being able to see the Galaxy game...we can't really form an opinion. I didn't think we were that great in either of the first two games. I'm looking for an excuse to get some season tix, but haven't found the evidence that I need yet.
     
  15. lochlair

    lochlair New Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Denver
    agree
     
  16. Nidal Baba Superstar

    Sep 20, 2006
    Far away
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, for an outside perspective, I think the Rapids have made a definite improvement on last season - and they're a lot more fun to watch than they've been in quite a while.
     
  17. scheck

    scheck Member+

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we've improved, but not drastically. The team works better together but still doesn't really look like a confident unit.

    I'll put our win at LA down to luck, but KC was a decent result.
     
  18. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    After that game, and considering the 4 other games we have played...I'm gonna have to say Incredible Luck. We haven't had a midfield attack in any game save for the 30 minutes Cooke came on against KC. We've played teams that have started extremely slow or teams that do not appear to have a plan. And somehow, we're sitting on 7 points.

    I'll take it, considering 4 of those points are on the road and we got 14 points on the road all last season. But man, we have a lot of work to do to be able to say we've improved significantly over last year.
     
  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well said. I'm voting lucky after tonight's match.
     
  20. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's somewhere in between. Baseball's Branch Rickey once said that "luck is the residue of design."

    Most of the improvement on offense is Conor Casey's spectacular start, along with solid play by Colin Clark and Terry Cooke. The midfield has talent, but has not crystallized as a unit. The defense remains a train wreck, and can be counted on for at least one staggeringly awful play each game.

    Looking past the record, the GF/GA margin is negligible. The play has been inconsistent, with sharp first half / second half differences in the early games. Some fundamentals are lacking. The quality of opposition has not been the sharpest.

    That said, there are glimpses of marginal improvement. In the lone home match, starting a speedy lineup that used the whole pitch ground down KC's defense, making it vulnerable to a well-built late attack. Perkins and Burpo have handled duties in goal well. The three C's (Cooke, Clark, and Casey) surround Pablo (or his lesser replacements) with solid outlets for an attack. Some of the first touches have been better. Players are more under control, with fewer silly bookings and no sendoffs.
     
  21. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    Frankly, I don't think Clark's been anything special this year. His shooting has been off and his decision-making has seemed to slip instead of improving. He's young so I'm not calling for his benching or anything, but I personally think that our offense's improvement has been all on Omar and Casey - just tons of great individual plays between them.


    Sigh :p Pickens.

    Otherwise, good post.
     
  22. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
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    Not sure what to make of things so far this year. I do know I'm glad about the above picture long ago no longer being current.
     
  23. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    d'oh. Guess you can tell where we were going for brunch today . . .

    Memo to self: NEVER post on an empty stomach.
     
  24. GreatZar

    GreatZar Member

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Mar 29, 1999
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm starting to like the coach move more and more. Using Ty Harden, Scott Palguta, Jordan Harvey, and Greg Dalby to get 4 points on the road?!? WTF?!? Even if we're lucky, the team is motivated to perform. What a complete shvte move it was to ever hire Fernando...

    Awfully early still...we'll see.
     
  25. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    My thoughts about this topic here.
     

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