Hey you statisticians!! Come, bless us with knoweldge Who are our top 10 scorers, assisters and all the rest of that jazz you know like the back of your hands? *points at Achtung, VR , Stud and L_U_F... Bless us all with your wisdom and interesting 'did you knows'
------Name--------GameSt-SB--Goals - Ruud van Nistelrooy---38---7---24 - Wayne Rooney---43---4---19 - Louis Saha---17---10---14 - Cristiano Ronaldo---35---9---11 - Kieran Richardson---21---12---5 - Ryan Giggs---27---7---4 - Giuseppe Rossi---5---5---4 - Rio Ferdinand---47---3---3 - Ji-Sung Park---25---17---3 - Paul Scholes---25---1---3 - Gabriel Heinze---4---2---2 - John O'Shea ---43---1---2 - Sylvain Ebanks-Blake---1---0---1 - Darren Fletcher---36---5---1 - Liam Miller---1---2---1 - Mikael Silvestre---41---4--- 1 - Alan Smith---23---10---1 Assist 1. Rooney-14 2. Ryan Giggs-8 3. Park Ji Sung-7 4. Ronaldo-7 5. Louis Saha-4 6. Ruud Van. -4 7. Fletcher-3 8. Neville-3 9. Silvestre-3 If this isnt what your asking for, sorry!
If those numbers are correct then we clearly have a problem and are heavily reliant on a handful of players scoring all our goals. That definitely needs to change next season. Didn't realise it was that bad actuallly!
It's particularly a problem in the league, where Ruud and Rooney have scored 37 of our 68 goals, or 54%. Saha and Ronaldo have a handful each, then there is a precipitous dropoff which reiterates our need for scoring midfielders. Park, for all the good he's done for the team (3rd in assists, according to benni's numbers), just isn't a scorer. Scholes has been out, and Giggs from his recent CM position doesn't have the same eye for goal. Heck, Rio is tied for fifth on this team in league goals scored.
One of the most glaring differences from some of our late 90's/early 00's championship winning sides and todays team is a lack of midfield scoring threat. We've become far too dependant on one or two players to make it happen. Hopefully Fergie can get us a midfielder or two this summer who can contribute more in the scoring department.
Thing is, on second thought, here's how it looked back in 1999-2000. Code: Premiership goals only 1999-2000 Yorke 20 Cole 19 Solskjaer 12 Scholes 9 Beckham 6 Giggs 6 Keane 5 Sheringham 5 Butt 3 Cruyff 3 Irwin 3 og 3 Fortune 2 Berg 1 It's a bit more evenly distributed, but I'm guessing that the standard deviation (a way of measuring the evenness of the data spread, for those who slept through stats class) of at least the top half of the scorers can't be hugely different. Code: Premiership goals only 2005-06 (through April 18) van Nistelrooy 21 Rooney 16 Ronaldo 8 Saha 6 Giggs 3 Ferdinand 3 Park 2 Scholes 2 og 2 Rossi 1 Silvestre 1 Fletcher 1 Smith 1 O'Shea 1 I'll have to take a closer look tonight. Unless someone beats me to it.
A liitle off topic Achtung but could you tell me how to do that "code" thingy that you've just done up there ^ so that posts stay nicely formatted?
Here you go Achtung. ----------99/00------------05/06 Mean------6.9--------------9.5 meadian----5----------------7 mode-------3----------------3 std dev----6.1--------------7.4 Give me a bit of time I'll do a linear regression and predict next years totals.
Use "[ code ] info here [ /code ]" (without spaces next to the brackets). You still have to space the columns properly, which kind of takes a while, but its definitely easier to read.
Excellent. If you feel like it, you can do other seasons as well, I just chose 99-00 because that was our best team in the league. And I was going to wait till I got home and pop it into my old TI-82.
Hmm.. from class In know that std deviation is something along the lines of sum of mean-individual squared, divide by number of total-1 then square root. I think... But what is the mode?
The mode is the number that occurs most often. The standard deviation is square root of the difference from the mean, squared, divided by number of samples.
Yeah, a stat here like mode or mean isn't that useful. Median is moderately useful. Mainly I wanted the std deviation to see how spread out our scorers are. Gfunk, are those stats for the entire list, or just the top half?
They are from your post, I didn't look any up. I must have vapor locked on the one column so here it is again, updated. ----------99/00------------05/06 Mean------6.9--------------4.9 meadian----5----------------2 mode-------3----------------1 std dev----6.1--------------6.2 This for the 14 scorers. I'm sort of distracted by Kate Beckinsale in Van Helsing at the moment.
Thanks for the updated one. I didn't realize that the standard deviations would be almost identical. So maybe we don't have as much of a scoring spread problem as it appears. The median and mean are lower though, so as it appears, we have a lot of guys scoring a few goals and a few guys scoring a lot, but the trend isn't that much worse than it has been in the past.
Premiership goals only 2005-06 (through April 18) Ronaldo 8 wing Giggs 3 cm Park 2 wing Scholes 2 cm Fletcher 1 cm Smith 1 cm O'Shea 1 cm Premiership goals only 1999-2000 Scholes 9 cm Beckham 6 wing Giggs 6 wing Keane 5 cm Butt 3 cm Cruyff 3 wing Fortune 2 wing Next is to find out how many of those were crucial or match deciding goals... 17goals from CM in 99 down to 8 in 05/06... 17goals from the wings in 99 down to 10. Also notice the position distribution of the players
Screw getting a defensive mid, it's an offensive mid we need. I say lets highjack Ballack from Chelski . Seriously though, Ruud is absolutley vital to our team, without a doubt.
HOLY ********ING MATH CLASS BATMAN!!! ITS A BUNCH OF MATH NERDS! Had to get that off my chest. I think you'll find that w/ Scholes having missed much of the season and Park adjusting to the league and Ronaldo having such a shite first half those numbers will improve next year. I'm particularly excited to see what if any impact David Jones and Giusseppe Rossi will have next season. Also, the one trick pony shit doesn't cut it any more as the standard Ronaldo hater crap. He's clearly got 2 tricks. Scoring and Creating you have to tip your hat to the lad for being 4th in both categories. Its not huge, and I'll predict that he can better those numbers but I think in terms of out put in relation to others, this is about where he should be for this stage of his career. I mean, at this stage, statistically only Rooney, Ruud and maybe Saha could be said to be having a greater impact on this team scoring. It would be nice if we could dig up the prediction threads from a while back where we guessed how many goals from the different players.