Manchester United......Beckham

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  1. stutrnjo

    stutrnjo New Member

    Apr 20, 2003
    Avoca, Pa
    Anybody catch the Manchester-Real Madrid game on the duece? What's up with Beckham (2 goals in a short time in the second half) not starting.....wonder where he'll be next year.
     
  2. bigtoga

    bigtoga Member

    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas, Texas
    not in NY lol

    Hopefully still in Manchester :)
     
  3. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    You never know, Becks and Posh might have a third kid named Hoboken...
     
  4. stutrnjo

    stutrnjo New Member

    Apr 20, 2003
    Avoca, Pa
    Yeah, he already has the accent.
     
  5. CbR

    CbR Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    Bergen County NJ
    worth 2 hours of your time just to watch him take a couple free kicks
     
  6. Sponge

    Sponge New Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Block 210, Row 2
    You can just see the headlines:

    "MLS and Real Madrid in $60 Million bidding war after Posh seen shopping in downtown Newark."

    or perhaps not.

    Well, I can't see the metros play this year but my Metros Hat and ESC scarf were worn with pride at Old Trafford last night. I just long for the time that Metros have a 30,000 seater place where everyone (Including all 22 players) believe that you can score two goals in 10 minutes to win a game 6-3.

    Sponge
     
  7. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what's this doing in an MLS team forum?

    Anyway, I think he's on his way out and headed to Real Madrid. He didn't start the Arsenal match either and he just proved to the best team in the world he can score against them with ease.
     
  8. NYC

    NYC New Member

    Nov 1, 1999
    If you don't have a game firmly put away after a Ronaldo hat-trick, you are not the best team in the world.
     
  9. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Real simple: He would be playing for the MetroStars if he came to MLS. That's why this belongs in the Metros team forum. I'll talk about that later if you wish.

    Let me try to keep this short for now and explain a little about why his moving here (if he is indeed going anywhere) would make sense if one thinks about it:

    First of all, this would be a tremendous challenge for David. Absolutely the biggest challenge he could ever hope to find after doing it all in Europe. To be the guy to put soccer up and over in the U.S. would be a great achievement.

    Second, it is the one move he could make that would save face for all involved in this whole Manchester United mess with Alex Ferguson. Man U can't let him go to another EPL club, that's clear. If he goes to a Continental club, he would be considered a traitor by many in the UK. The thought of David Beckham wearing the jersey of a Spanish or Italian club is unthinkable to almost all Brits, even Man U haters. The outrage would be astounding. That would not be fair to David, but it is the reality. And Man U would take a massive hit for supposedly driving him out. They'd both come out with their reputations damaged.

    However!! If he were to leave Man U and come to our shores for the noble cause of establishing soccer in the U.S. and helping turn MLS into truly "Major" League Soccer, it would minimize the damage of this tragic breakup. The British still may not be crazy over losing him, but it would be a hell of a lot easier to deal with. Our league and clubs are not threatening to the FA. David will not come back to haunt them in the tournaments against the Continentals. He could be considered their gift to U.S. soccer! And think of the dough they could make coming over here to play EPL-MLS friendlies, against a Beckham-led MLS all-star squad or the Beckham-led MetroStars.

    Third, there will be those who would accuse Beckham of doing it only for the money. Yes, that old line of bull. Let's put it this way: his leaving will be more readily accepted by the great British football public if he is cashing his paycheck for American dollars rather than Euros.

    Finally, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why the MetroStars are the only place he would want to go if he decided to play here. And it's the only place MLS would put him. If you need me to spell that out, I will. But as of right now, if this talk is serious and if David is serious, it could be a marriage made in Heaven!
     
  10. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dont forget, he has a kid named Brooklyn
     
  11. Joe Stoker

    Joe Stoker Member

    Mar 10, 2003
    Stokerland
    A wild thought... Chinaglia and his soccer-camp buddy make good on their promise of reviving the Cosmos as an independent team playing an international schedule, and sign Beckham as their #1 guy. Put up or shut up, Giorgio.
     
  12. Grady08

    Grady08 Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Folks, this isn't going to happen. As much as it would thrill me to have Becks on our side of the pond, it just does not seem feesible, especially with MLS' single-entity system, that we could compensate him, let alone, hinge on him the task of 'pushing' MLS over the edge and make it "Major." It's either going one of two ways...either he will still be with United or he will transfer to Real...any chances of him coming to the US are a few years off...that was the logical side of me...now for the dreamer...


    Man that would kick a$$!! That would show the world that we've arrived...having arguably one of the world's best players in our very own little league!! Take that Europe!!

    There, now I feel much better....

    Peace...
     
  13. Gilstar10

    Gilstar10 Red Card

    Oct 12, 2002
    Somewhere out in space

    Dude, if you´re talking about the Real-Machester of this april 23 2003 ;)
    The Two goals: the first one was a Casillas lacks of reaction (Or a fake)! (but this one can pass as a good Beckham´s shot) but the second one was an Hierro´s own-goal!
    What a great Beckham was for sure :D
     
  14. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Frankly, the single-entity system is just why this could be worked out with a minimum of problems and complaints. He'll be signing with the league, not an individual team.

    As far as compensation is concerned, it was only last week that the New York Daily News had an article about the American Basketball Association's attempt to sign Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) many years ago. To make a long story short, the New York Nets, who at the time played on Long Island, had the territorial rights to Alcindor but knew they couldn't compete with the NBA on salary. The league called all the owners together and worked out a deal whereby all the teams in the ABA would contribute to paying Alcindor's salary if the Nets could land him. They all knew what a milestone it would be for the league to get the guy. As it turned out, they were still outbid by the Milwaukee Bucks.

    Whatever MLS could afford to pay Beckham would be added to by the tons of endorsement deals he would be showered with by being here. Think of the dollars that would be thrown at him and the publicity MLS would get by his mere presence in the league. Especially being based in the New York area.
     
  15. Grady08

    Grady08 Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    I just claimed that it didn't seem feesible, based on MLS past actions...if Beckham proclaimed that he was coming here, then I am certian the league and investors would set something up to accomodate him....and you're right, the endorsements he would land would probably rival the NBA and NFL stars...it just seems to impossible to believe that it could happen....trust me, I would be all for this if it came to pass....
     
  16. Metro-Lager

    Metro-Lager New Member

    Sep 18, 2002
    Willow Grove, PA
    More Wishful thinking:
    IF Beckham were to come over to MLS, it would seem most likely, as many have pointed out, to be later in his career (at least a few more years away). That said, he would have earned untold millions (in Pounds Sterling mind you) in salary and product endorsements (ala Michael Jordan) by that time (now in fact). Hopefully he is investing this money wisely and is ALREADY at the point of financial independence for life (regarless of what his wife also pulls in).

    If he, as he hints in the article, would be coming here for love of the States, the game, and a challenge, it would seem he could serve as a great embassador for the game here, and not make salary an issue (i.e. play for an MLS-affordable wage as an SI).
    End Wishful thinking...
    No more Lothars please...
     
  17. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    you almost had me convinced he was coming to the metrostars. almost.
     
  18. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Listen, if he came to MLS now, rest assured he would be a MetroStar.
     
  19. stutrnjo

    stutrnjo New Member

    Apr 20, 2003
    Avoca, Pa
    The main reason we won't see Beckham State side anytime soon (now don't get mad everyone) is 'cuz he still has a few years of quality soccer in him....
     
  20. idi amin

    idi amin New Member

    Beckham in MLS would end his playing for England real quick, if Macca can move to Real Madrid and win 2 European Cups (maybe 3) and be a constant /glaring ommision from the England team sheet than Beckham in MLS would put him in the remotest international wilderness with no coming back.
     
  21. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    I disagree. Going to Europe would do that. Going to America (or Asia, for that matter) wouldn't.

    (Besides, don't we and the English have a "Special Relationship"?)
     
  22. CbR

    CbR Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    Bergen County NJ
    for arguments sake, how much do u think he'll raise attendance/publicity?
     
  23. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why sign Beckham, when we've already started developing Jacob Leblanc on that wing?
     
  24. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot New Member

    The creators of The Simpsons didn't use him when the show was set in England because he wasn't famous enough in the states. Outside of soccer fans people here just don't know who he is.

    What does that tell you?
     
  25. idi amin

    idi amin New Member

    Bendover like Beckham was not exactly a blockbuster, i think it did all right for the number of screens it was on though
     

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