Malick Sanogo at 1. FC NÜRNBERG

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Academy' started by ChuckMe92, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's an '04 forward who's listed as American on the DFB's official site and FuPa. Furthermore, I can confirm from his IG story that he is eligible for the US, Germany, and Ivory Coast. It's likely he was born in the US and raised in Germany. His father is former Ivorian international Boubacar Sanogo, who played a number of seasons in Germany. Transfermarkt doesn't list US nationality but does mention he's the son of Boubacar. He was also in Germany U16 camp last month, along with another US-eligible forward, 1860 Munich's Mansour Ouro-Tagba.

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    FuPa: https://www.fupa.net/spieler/malick-sanogo-1527425.html

    DFB: https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/malick-sanogo/spieler

    Transfermarkt: https://www.transfermarkt.com.mt/malick-sanogo/profil/spieler/692736

    According to FuPa, he has 9 goals in 743 minutes dating back to last year at various youth levels. He's currently in U17 Bundesliga with Union Berlin.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    1st one to note that he's American eligible was me in the detective thread.:p

    he seems to be born in New York City according to TM.

    not sure he's eligible for Germany though, takes ages to become eligible for Germany and seems like someone who talked to him directly on instagram said that he told him that he doesn't have a German passport yet.That he talked to Prus (U16 coach) for an hour during the camp but it does seem like based on these things that Germany is his preference.

    even though most of his father's career was in Germany, he never stayed long enough consecutively. Like he played 4 years, then left and cameback like 3 years later, then left again and then cameback. Given his father being all over the place it makes sense if he's not eligible as of now.
     
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  3. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    If he doesn't have a German passport how is he playing over there at all? He's 15 or did he just turn 16?
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm not extremely in tune with the eligibility of underage players. But isn't that whole thing about people who move to the country for footballing reasons?

    there are a lot of players from Africa and even places like Syria/Afghanistan who don't have German passport and have been playing in Germany for years and years in the youth levels. Should those kids not be allowed to play until they live in the country for 8+ years? A lot of people see football in Germany as a good way to integrate people.

    I mean Sanogo has been in Germany for awhile too, from TM in Youth Teams.
    Werder Bremen, FC Energie Cottbus, 1.FC Union Berlin
     
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  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, he was raised in Germany while his dad played there. From 2005-2009, dad played in Germany and then a season in France and 2 more in Germany before going on an international adventure that was probably best without the family tagging along (UAE, India, Indonesia). He returned for a final season in Germany in 2017-18.

    Would have made sense to leave the family in one place while he traveled the world. After about 5 years, you can qualify for a permanent residency permit for Germany.

    I couldn't find anything about Malick's mom, so it's possible she has EU citizenship or residency.
     
  6. SloterHaus

    SloterHaus Member

    Dec 14, 2018
    There are some exceptions for foreign underage players
    • The player is moving for humanitarian reasons without his parents
    • The player is an exchange student undertaking an academic programme abroad
    • Player is registering for the first time and has lived continuously for the last five years in the country of intended registration prior to this request
    • Both player and club are within 50km of their common borders and the distance between the two is less than 100km
    • The player is over 16 and is moving within the territory of the EU/EEA
    • The player is moving for humanitarian reasons with his parents
    • The parents of the player moved for reasons not linked to football
    In detail:
    https://resources.fifa.com/image/up...uide-2930706.pdf?cloudid=uof9ezgxs7tyyoffen0f
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    scored today his 7th of the season in a 1-1 draw vs Wolfsburg U17.
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    today his papa Boubacar Sanogo has been hired by Union Berlin to work individually with all the youth strikers in their Academy, which obviously includes his son.
     
  9. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow... impressive start to the season for him. Have to admit that I had never heard of him. Seems like a long-shot to play for the US... seems destined for the Ivory Coast considering his father and all. US needs to poach.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    one has to remember that Nord/Nordost is usually the weakest league of the 3. And that from what I've seen Malick has that physicality edge already. Will that matter in a few years maybe or maybe not.

    as for International although doesn't seem eligible for Germany yet that he went to a camp and talked to the coach for an hour does open that as a 3rd option. Seems like he could be eligible 2020/early 2021. From what I've noticed about vast majority of duals who are African eligible, they usually go for that route for senior NT and not youth NT. I don't blame them, kids might not be as keen to travel to Africa to play games.

    who knows from his 2+1 options how he would rank them in terms of preference.

    but it's cool that his dad gets to train him at the club as well as his competition. Union Berlin doesn't have a II team and barely promotes players to the 1st team. They hope in future they can change that though.
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Sanogo played 27 min for for Union U21 in Baltic Sea Cup 3-2 win over Aalborg BK. No goals/assists for him.
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    scored his 1st goal since early October in a 2-0 win over Hallescher U17. Was his 8th of the season.
     
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He started in Baltic Sea Cup.


    and scored their opener in an eventual 3-2 win.
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    scored his 9th of the season in a 4-3 loss to Bremen U17.
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    scored his 10th-11th in a 4-3 loss to Pauli U17. And that's it for U17 until post Winter.
     
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  16. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He gave the "Future USMNT" account a shoutout in his IG story today. The US may not be his first choice but he is likely at least open.
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I mean it's very rare for a dual (barring someone like Toljan) to close any door. The real International question is where does the USA stand in his preference as a future triple national?

    how much influence does his father (who also trains him) have as well? One can't forget that his dad was ex Ivory Coast International player and seems like his whole family could be from Ivory Coast too.
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    scored a double today in a 3-3 draw vs Cottbus U17 to take tally to 13th for the season. Doesn't have physicality deficits which helps playing vs older players.
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    scored another double in a 4-3 win over Jena U17. Also scored the winner a PK.
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    looks like he scored and assisted once today in a 2-0 win.

    his tally seems to be
    14 goals and 6 assists in 19 games.

    also 2nd half of season
    4 goals and 4 assists in 3 games
     
  21. charlie kennan

    charlie kennan Red Card

    Feb 23, 2020
    *15 goals
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so its 15 goals and 7 assists,

    but in the end what he does in U19 is more important than anything in U17. Especially for a team like Union with no II team.
     
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    scored PK and winner in 2-1 win over H96 U17.
     
  25. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This was posted about in the youth national team forum but there's been multiple recent IG stories of his suggesting he was invited to the March US U17 camp that was eventually cancelled due to COVID-19.
     

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