Makaay. Teves. Huh? D'Alessandro...

Discussion in 'Germany' started by Syncope, Jun 12, 2003.

  1. Syncope

    Syncope New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Everyone knows by now that Bayern wants Makaay, and that if they can't get him, they'd like to get Teves. In interview with Rummenigge on the Bayern site, he was asked about D'Alessandro (same team as Teves, Boca Juniors). Rummenigge said that D'Alessandro is a playmaker, and that Bayern has a better one in Ballack.

    Would someone please wake up. Ballack is not a playmaker, but a really great opportunist. On the other hand, D'Alessandro is one heck of a playmaker.
     
  2. miko

    miko New Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    Ireland
    Ballack not a playmaker? D'Alessandro is a good playmaker, but Ballack is better. Anyway, I think Teves would be great for Bayern. I think that they won't try to buy Teves unless someone else buys Maakay though. And according to Maakay, Bayern are the only club to have shown interest in him as of yet.
     
  3. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    No, Syncope is right, Ballack is no playmaker. Ballack is a central mid with excellent striking and heading abilities. It is not Ballack's strength to control the game and bring his team mates into good situations.
     
  4. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Andres D'alessandro plays for River, not Boca.
     
  5. Syncope

    Syncope New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Sorry, of course. My mistake. I was thinking of Demichelis and D'Alessandro on the same team.

    On the other hand, even Voeller is thinking of Ballack as a playmaker. Makes me want to pull my hair out. Germany, or at least the German NT, doesn't have a playmaker. I was hoping Frings would develop into one, but it doesn't look like it. Wosz was pretty good, but never got a real chance in the NT.
     
  6. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    In the NT it's a real problem position. There is some hope on Deisler, but a) he'll have to recover completely, b) get the injuries out of his head, c) plays in a club that doesn't use this position and d) I don't know if he'll get enough playing time in this club anyway - after all, the next season will start with two competitions and there'll be no time for Schweinsteiger's, Feulner's and other fun like it was in the second season half.
     
  7. erwink

    erwink New Member

    Mar 29, 2003
    california
    Deisler as a first class playmaker is a real long shot. He is better suited to play winger and serve crosses. I agree with you, Ballack is not a playmaker either. We have lacked quality here for quite some time and there seems to be no answer in sight.
     
  8. miko

    miko New Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    Ireland
    After watching two of my taped Bayern Munich games from this season, I have noticed Ballack is not a playmaker. Deisler might be a playmaker in the future, though, if he overcomes all the problems olafgp has stated.
     
  9. GladbachPat

    GladbachPat New Member

    Jul 7, 2002
    Pennsylvania
    i think that Ballack, though not currently in a playmaking role at Bayern, displayed playmaking qualities with Leverkusen in the 01-02 season when he was allowed to attack, but of course he played in an attacking midfield with Ze Roberto, Schneider and Bastürk. Bayern, in line with their tactically defensive and lacklustre style, use him more as a holding midfielder with superb "heading and striking abilities"
    i'd really like to see Bayern play a more attacking style - with Ballack involved in more moves forward instead of anchoring the middle. i'd love even more to see Deisler (my buddy who lived around the corner - fellow streetballer) come back to fitness and form. even if i'm sick of Bayern's drama, i can still be a fan of these two footballers, eh? well, and you have to love a keeper who looks to eat the opposing strikers.
     
  10. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    bayern should definitely get Tevez! his potential is through the roof. I saw him play last season and he was good then, but this year he has improved 100% and almost a machine! and I can only wonder how many titles he can help boca win if he stays for a few more years (and how good he would get)

    bayern better snap him up before another euro club does and believe me bayern will regret it if they dont get him.
     
  11. JeffS

    JeffS New Member

    Oct 15, 2001
    Cameron Park, CA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Bayern can't get Makaay, Teves would be outstanding as well. Teves is another Argentine youngster with more talent than he knows what to do with. The Argentine media like to say "the next Maradona" quite liberally (they've said this about Saviola, Riquelme, Aimar, D'elassandro, and now Teves), however, the talent may not be quite Maradona-esque, but it's not far.

    I disagree somewhat with some of the posters here about Ballack's play-making ability. Remember, he did get 3 assists in the World Cup. And I've seen him time and time again set up his teammates this year at Bayern (Elber's last goal was a classic example). True, Ballack is not a true "classic" play-maker in the mold of Maradona, Matheaus, Zidane, etc, but he is still awesome all-around. Plus, he is not a pure defensive mid either.

    That being said, both Germany and Bayern could use another midfielder with play-making abilities. Deisler and Frings maybe, or perhaps Freier, might fit the bill.
     
  12. Saint

    Saint New Member

    Jun 18, 2002
    if u have players like Ballack, Zè Roberto and Salihamidzic u dont need a playmaker!
     
  13. Texan

    Texan New Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    I think it depends on how you define the role of a playmaker. Ballack doesn't control the ball and therefore the flow of the match, but when I've watched him play he does create a lot of chances for the players around him.
     
  14. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    america de cali 0 - boca juniors 4

    Tevez in an inspired performance bags 2 goals. The colombian crowd gave him a good ovation when he was substituted (shocking)
     
  15. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Correction, dude: you say D'Alessandro plays for the same team as Teves? Total opposite, D'Alessandro plays for Rivers (thank God !)
    Teves' skills are mostly a good dribble from the midfield up, he is not an out-and-out striker, or a target man, but he can pick up some goals. Although, I personally do not like him, once he lears to better utilize his teammates effectively, he will be quite an important player.
     
  16. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    First and foremost, Carlos Tevez is not a playmaker, he's a second striker, and I wish hew could stay to win more silverware, he's only 19 for Christ's sake!!!
     

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