Madridistas All Over Copa And Euros Collide While Colombians Dominate - The Other Teams Thread

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  1. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
     
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  2. AppleBob86

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  3. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Yeah, so unfair. I think the club should reward itself the Liga right now knowing that the team deserved it and got wronged by everybody to prevent that. Off to cibeles.
     
  4. AppleBob86

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    Jan 11, 2018
    Or just use…VAR correctly and unbiased
     
  5. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Yeah, pretty sure the team with the most penalties needs to protest to have even more
    About 56 per season I would guess.

    I figure Vini should be allowed to retake the one he canned too. Just as a show of sportsmanship.
     
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  6. natenate101

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    Dec 16, 2006
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    I watched this one today and the wild thing was how forward he was playing. Found himself in the attacking third a lot and their RB was covering for him. Almost got a goal in a cross that went off his thigh.
     
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  7. 4x4s

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    Laporta crushed Font, winning by more than twice as many votes. Barca president until 2031.
     
  8. MaxY

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    So opponents should be free to interrupt play in the penalty box with fouls since that's not the important part but the average number of penalties a team gets?
     
  9. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The entire discussion started with somebody posting a blatant Barca penalty with some "lol, how is that a penalty", and when it's obvious that it's a penalty, it turns into "well, why didn't we get some other random penalty for some other random foul?" (that we have no clip of to show)

    You have no idea how much of a loser mentality that is and how pathetic it looks. Barca gave BTO to Sevilla and people actually think it's some refereeing decision that tipped the scale.

    Insane. Madrid has gotten a very positive whistle this season from every single account, including Madrid people that don't live on the clubs money. Let's be better for once.
     
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  10. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Definitely understand the frustration. We suffer a couple of these and when we ask for penalties we are responded with stats of how many penalties we ha e received or personal character breakdowns for why it shouldn't be given.
     
  11. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
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    Meh, that was utterly predictable, whether it was warranted or not.
     
  12. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He's navigating a miserable time for the club pretty well. He's far from likeable but he's ready to use whatever resource he can. I feel like saying Laporta is bad is no campaign. You need to present a alternative, and there really is none.
     
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  13. Khan

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    Mar 16, 2000
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    #20813 Khan, Mar 16, 2026
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    LOL, I'm not calling Laporta "bad." I'm just taking a more complete view of both the good and not-so-good of the man's work as President.


    Laporta's been above average in picking managers. He picked Pep over Mourinho, and he picked Flick over Xavi.

    On the other hand, the transfer business hasn't been entirely on point, and at times, it seems to be based on vibes. (Buying Olmo when Fermin and Gavi and Pedri and others were available at the 10; chasing Diaz and Williams; spending big on Rashford's wages, when he's just a backup.)

    The Camp Nou renovation hasn't been ideally handled, and selling off pieces of the club hasn't landed well with all corners of the socios.

    His campaign lies/promises haven't been forgotten, and Barca are still not at the 1:1, because of stupid decisions having been taken.

    He's "cleared the deck" of any cogent differing voices, by getting rid of Alemany, and hiring virtual illiterate and innumerate Deco as "the face" of the sporting department. Meanwhile Laporta and his unelected, unappointed buddy Echevarria are the ones making the decisions.



    The overarching view is that Laporta's Barca has found 1st team success, and hence, he was always going to win the election.
     
  14. 4x4s

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    You sound like you're complaining from the first class. Considering that he's tasked with renovating the Camp Nou on a practically bankrupt club, he's doing well enough.

    The team is winning trophies, the club is making due.

    If you want a perfect president, you'll need to wait for long because I have not experienced a single universally praiseworthy Barcelona club president and I've seen at least 4.
     
  15. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
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    Nope. I'm just not falling all over myself to hold a ticker tape parade for the man.

    As mentioned, he's done some good, and some not-so-good. To the good, he's won, in part because he picked the right manager again, and in part because madrid has a talented, but mismatched roster, with an inferior manager to Don Carlo.

    I see how Perez went for vibes and now has a 3 LW attack, a big downgrade in MF from your KCM group, and an aging/injured backline. And no one can claim that either of Alonso or Arbeloa could be superior to Ancelotti at this point in time.


    Not attacking you guys, but seeing how Perez looks to me like he's lost the plot a bit makes me concerned that Barca have only Laporta and Echevarria minding the till.

    In other words, yeah its "going ok" right now, but its not like Laporta has done everything perfectly well, and that's all that I've pointed out.
     
  16. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The president's don't care about how many right wingers or left backs the team has, they worry about how many right wing and left wing politicians they can get into the "palco". There are business deals signed right there and there at the Bernabeu.

    It's funny to me that people still fall for the idea that Florentino or any other club president knows who most players are before the club signs them.

    Sure, he seals the deal with a high profile prospect in the final "whoo" phase of the deal and is economically involved, but those guys don't have the time or energy to be involved like that.

    Florentino has increased his private fortune by 10 fold since he became president of Real Madrid. He's one of the most, if not the most influential business man in Spain, his name is plastered across every single large economic and political scandal in Spain.

    Real Madrid fans profit from somebody who can be considered the Michael Jordan of Spanish capitalism and opportunism.

    Thinking he's a silly uncle that has a big company that worries about the team beyond preserving it as a crown achievement and his entry to an absolutely dominant figure in Spanish society, is really dead wrong.

    It's easy to look away from a Real Madrid perspective because he puts the same energy in both private and club matters, but you have to be incredibly naive to think that he's the cause of trouble. He's the guy that built the platform of success, by any means necessary.
     
  17. Khan

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    Mar 16, 2000
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    And on this, I agree. The position of President of either madrid or Barça is a political one that leads to even greater influence, power, and wealth across Spanish society to the winner of the job.

    And at the end of the day, it's a popularity contest that decides who wins the gig.
     
  18. fierro

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    Jan 30, 2007
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    I doubt the club would demand a random number, if it happened the club’s requirements would be enough penalties to ensure a golden boot for Mbappe at end of season (i.e. if he needs 3 goals on the last match day, then 3 pk’s it is).


    Some even make it out to be a loyalty test for fans and demand support for the club now prioritizing individual goal scoring records and awards for its highest paid player - like if you don’t support Mbappe FC you don’t even like the sport level of delusion.
     
  19. The Biscuitman

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  20. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
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    Real Madrid
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    Palestine
    The “agents acting for both sides and taking a cut from both” thing is a complete conflict of interest and in my view is one of the dirtiest things in sports (along with transfer fees).

    Let the player pay their agent, ban agents from acting for both the player and club because its just not possible to do that without a conflict of interest.
     
  21. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    At this point the system is so polluted it's direct money laundering and sharing of "profits". I know you understand what I mean but for those who don't it's a way to use a "legal" means to transfer club cash to the club President, board, whomevers hands.
     
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  22. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I don't mind tripple, quadruple, whatever payments to agents the clubs want to pay as long as they are properly registered. In Chelsea's case it's payments made to offshore accounts/under the table. If an agent requests a 25 million "commission" as a negotiator, and the club is ready to pay it, then by all means, if you pay it, it's your choice.
     
  23. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    Bodo with the same lead we have just about surviving a complete onslaught by Sporting
     
  24. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    HT

    Sporting 1-0 Bodo
     
  25. natenate101

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    Dec 16, 2006
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    Sporting with another after knocking on the door for a bit. 2-0
     

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