Madridistas All Over Copa And Euros Collide While Colombians Dominate - The Other Teams Thread

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  1. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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  2. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Genius at work here.
     
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  3. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    They didn't sit back despite going 1-0 up like many teams do vs Barca even at home. Romero missed two sitters and another decent chance before converting one for 2-0.
     
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  4. 4x4s

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    To me it feels like he's taking credit for something that does happen. Barca having a couple key injuries, clearly under the weather, they pounce on a couple opportunities and get the momentum going. Good game, but also credit goes to the players, they are the ones that executed.

    It's absolute trend to the sit there and be like "I have the code!" for guys that look to pitch their profile into the coaching job market for better opportunities so I get it. The Arteta LinkedIn school of career management.

    Find it cringe to sit there and say you have the answers to the test, regardless of who does it.
     
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  5. 4x4s

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    I always like to bring up our game VS Arsenal as a coaching example.

    We play against somebody that couldn't find the goal with a GPS sensor from free kicks for an entire career, so we set up a soft wall to cover for crosses (good scouting) he the goes on and scores two of them.

    If he doesn't convert, you pat yourself on the back and say what a great job you did to read the free kick taker. He does and suddenly you're a clown that has no idea. With the idea and the process being practically identical.
     
  6. Bear Crotch

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    Jan 2, 2008
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    This guy. Yeah, if all goes your way then get at them.

    It's not like they've never dropped points against teams that park the bus. Mou did it with Inter against the best Barca ever and the bus was parked.
     
  7. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
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    The teams that sit back usually lose but the margins are much finer that managers can’t resist going that route in case they get a bit of luck and the shot that was going to be the winner narrowly misses.

    Sevilla usually dare, but usually lose 5-0 as well.

    Tough choice for a lower level team manager either way.
     
  8. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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  9. Saeta Rubia

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  10. 4x4s

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    Barca's women's team Absolutely crushing bayern. They've done huge things for women's football and seem light-years ahead of us.
     
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  11. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
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    Wait, why does Villareal have their home game against Barca moved to Miami again?
     
  12. 4x4s

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    Because by default, one team has to be the away side on the team sheet.

    Barca doesn't get a bigger cut off tickets whether the fans wear Barca kits or fur coats.
     
  13. Excape Goat

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    We understand that, but by default, Villarreal is being punished by La Liga.

    When a club is involved in misconduct, such as fan trouble, they are sometimes required to play one or more of their home games at a neutral venue. Of course, they might make more money through playing in Miami. But it is a punishment. Meanwhile, Barcelona is effectively being rewarded by moving a tougher away game to a neutral ground that will likely offer a favorable atmosphere for them than in Villarreal.

    @MiamiNative0722 @J-Mezzy Give it everything you've got to outcheer the Barcelona supporters in Florida!. :)
     
  14. REALFOREVER

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    Dec 22, 2003
    I watched Spain under 20 to see Pitarch and ended up getting impressed by Mendoza. Someone is going to pay his 20 million clause. He is part of the reason for Elche hot start.

    Also Pitarch....

     
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  15. REALFOREVER

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  16. 4x4s

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    #17241 4x4s, Oct 8, 2025
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    Villareal have 4 wins and 14 losses to Barca at home.

    To make a recent comparison, Atletico have 9 wins and 14 losses to us at the Metropolitano, 6 to 18 at the Bernabeu.

    Somebody has to be the away side. I didn't see anybody complaining that we were packing the house at the CWC about us playing what was effectively home games there.

    Here's how you totally mismanage the situation:

    Roig announced that the club would take on the travel costs and tickets for members that want to attend the game, or pay out 20% of the season ticket for those that can't.

    Trying to organize travel and accommodation for thousands of Villareal fans is a logistical nightmare especially in December mid holiday season. The idea of the club is to book a private flight, pack the fans into a plane that arrives with just enough time to take a bus to the stadium, then take a bus to the airport right after the game and fly home on a private flight.

    I'm sorry, but that is simply stupid.
     
  17. Doni

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    Dec 4, 2010
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    Since 2014/14 season Villarreal have 3 draws and 9 losses to Barcelona at the Ceramica, their record at home is weirdly bad, during the same time they’ve won two games in Barcelona.

    Usually speaking home stadium advantage counts (obviously), so logically this does impact fair competition, weirdly this time around, with the last 10 season record, Villarreal probably won’t be negatively impacted.

    The CWC comparison though is just dumb, that’s a neutral ground competition. It’s like Sweden complaining that Brazil has more supporters in a WC held in USA.
     
  18. 4x4s

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    Even at Villareal, fans sell their tickets to fans of Barca and Madrid when the teams come through to make a buck.

    Clubs love to pretend that they care about the sport and the integrity of the supporters but at the same time they embrace stuff like dynamic pricing (which also has a positive but it doesn't apply to a game like this).

    I just think playing meaningful games away from home is a forward thinking strategy, and unfortunately the side effect is that the "home team" will always be the more popular one.

    Villareal aren't forced into this at gunpoint either, there is a clear strategy being followed here, but the attitude this has been treated with is by several people that signed contracts for it, has been absolutely bewildering.
     
  19. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
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    I hope I can ge tickets for this bs and go with my cule friend. Might buy a Villarreal jersey lol
     
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  20. 4x4s

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    Hans Joachim Watzke: "What annoys me is, Premier League clubs have way more money than we do, and they spend it like idiots. But they still have way more talents than we do. As Bundesliga clubs, we can look to England and sign a load of 16 to 18 year old players at a quality level that far surpasses ours. This is where we need to start doing better. "
     
  21. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
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    It is mind boggling how much they spend. They just buy and buy blindly hoping something sticks. They are even buying Colombian youth players now and that’s a gamble like playing the lottery as our league is sooooo bad that it’s impossible to tell if a kid is good or not

    Brazilian league is almost European level and even there it’s hard to spot talents at that age
     
  22. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
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    Doesn't that give Barca an unfair advantage since it isn't an away but a neutral ground game?
     
  23. MiamiNative0722

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    May 25, 2013
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    This is such a disingenuous post man. Cmon.

    What does the Villarreal record have to do with anything? Sevilla just beat Barca 3 days ago for the first time in 10 years in the league. Gave them a 4-1 beating at the Sanchez Pizjuan. Do you think that would’ve been possible in a stadium full of Cule’s in another continent? Does that not alter the final result of the competition designed for everyone to play 1 home and 1 away game? The point isn’t the likelihood of what the result will be, it’s about maintaining the integrity of a competition specifically structured on home-away balance.

    And to bring up the CWC, seriously? A total red herring. That’s a wholly different kind of competition. Yes, those inevitably have unfair conditions for smaller clubs, but those competitions don’t pretend otherwise. Those are not about creating parity or equal conditions.
     
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  24. YOUNGSTARS87

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    Dec 21, 2005
    The better question is why wasn't it one of barca's home matches and had to be Villarreal's?

    This is what can't be twisted and what is avoided because you can't rationalize it without admitting preferably treatment for the club which tries to convince everyone they're the victims of that.
     
  25. Ahmadi8

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    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    That should have been the logical decision to make....
     
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