Madridistas All Over Copa And Euros Collide While Colombians Dominate - The Other Teams Thread

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  1. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Fun development in the Negreira case.

    Apparently his wife received deposits of €3M between the time from of his "relationship" with barca (1992-2023).

    That information was released after the final report had been presented to the judge presiding over the case that there was no proof.... I repeat ZERO evidence of any refereeing advice, reports or videos which Negreira provided barca for the services which they paid him €7.5M while he was the Vice President of the Techincal Referee Commitee.


    This is hilarious :D

    The most ironic part of this all is that people will somehow defend this and say there isn't proof or try to rationalize the obvious; barca bought officiating favors for almost 3 decades.

    The hypocrisy the media and fans bury their heads into a hole on this matter bur are vocal and stand up on other matters is also a nice hypocritical joke.
     
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  2. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  3. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    According to 4x4, there is no “there” there.
     
  4. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Have they found a manipulated game yet? Because we've known about all these payments for years now, and Negreira will go to jail, and let go a couple months later, but it will not be for anything with any direct impact on the games.

    This is, so far, a purely financial crime, with corruption sprinkled on top of it, but there has not been a single game pointed out that was manipulated.

    Apparently Barca rigged all those games enough to win a title but not a single one can be proven, they have to be absolute masterminds.
     
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  5. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    You know I’m not like everyone when it comes to this, but if there were payments and corruption, what was it for?
     
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  6. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Because Negreira secretely had a sexual relationship with Laporta, so he gave him presents and favors. Beats me. Until either scenario has been proven, it's about as likely here.

    Those payments have been in our knowledge for over two years, and not a single case of game manipulation has been opened.

    Either the case is handled by total idiots, or there simply isn't enough there to prove anything other than that Barca was paying somebody they shouldn't have been and he has been hiding those payments from the tax man.

    With calciopoli you have tapes over tapes of audio about which referee, which game, which result. Here we have nothing despite documents going back years and years and years ago.

    Negreira is a con man and he scammed both Barca and the government is my current standpoint until something else comes to light.
     
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  7. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    The fact Madrid and other LL teams are not too vocal about this scandal makes me think there's not much to it.
     
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  8. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    I think it’s more about the optics of legitimacy as a league. The Juve scandal was a huge blow for Serie A. At the risk of damaging the league, the protests would go nowhere as Barca is ultimately protected and the golden goose by the FA.
     
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  9. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Florentino has been to more private dinners with Laporta since then than most men have been with their significant other.
     
  10. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Using that standard you can basically accuse them of touching horses and goats just as freely.
     
  11. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    Yes, Barca and Negreira keep lots of evidence around as proof for blackmailing purposes. I'm sure the referees kept solid notes and recordings of games they manipulated so that Barca can he caught redhanded. 3 million for services NOT rendered is just Barca's way of showing generosity.

    I find it interesting that you defend this Negriera-gate stuff harder than culers defend this.
     
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  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    The authorities raided both offices and took binders and binders of documents, computers, hardddrives for phones.

    Nothing found on them suggests a manipulated game.

    I'm not telling you no games were manipulated, i'm telling you this case has been studied back over phones, letters, and every other medium and everybody made sure to not make a single mistake over about ten years? Really, hard to imagine.

    These are people that get caught cheating on their wife by an amateur detective.


    You can believe what you want to believe, i stick to the facts. The facts are, no games have been proved to have been manipulated, yet, or at all.
     
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  13. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    Then either Barca paid for the fear of dirt existing and then were happily surprised, or Negreira really knew what he was doing and did a great job keeping everything off channel. There are so many mediums to do shady business, they were just better at covering up this ordeal. Not every mobster is an idiot who leaves a papertrail in plainsight. You know better than this bro.
     
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  14. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    I don't think 4x4 "defends" Barcelona. He is just waiting for solid evidence to emerge. I am 99% CONVINCED there's something there that affected decisions on the pitch. At the same time, I know nothing will happen unless there's irrefutable proof.

    Barcelona is the hip club that wants an independent Catalonia, its shirt has Unicef on it, and its women's team always wins the CL, so you won't see the media (except for Madrid's media) go too hard on it.

    It's frustrating. That's why I hope solid evidence of manipulation emerges because I am almost 100% sure there's something. Even then, I don't think they will be punished.
     
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  15. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  16. Nir_O

    Nir_O Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Mar 16, 2019
    With Alvarez and Soroloth AM can be competitive team
     
  17. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

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    Jan 11, 2018
    Savio: "When I saw them beat Real Madrid 4-0 & win the Champions League, I really wanted to be there to celebrate with the fans".

    Sure :D
     
  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

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  19. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

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    Costa in 2013-14 and Suarez in 2020-21 were huge difference makers for Atlético. Simeone hasn't had a reliable striker for majority of his Atlético tenure. Alvarez could do well there as a regular starter.
     
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  20. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Anyone who seriously thinks that the stumblebums Rosell, Bartomeu, and Laporta could mastermind, like ANYthing has got to be joking. Like Jerry Reinsdorf/Jordan, those three would be abject failures, absent the arrival of a 13 year old Argentine back in 2000.

    Those imbeciles could fvkc up pa amb tomaquet.
     
  21. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    Excellent deal for all sides, City gets 4 times than what they paid for him, AM gets an Excellent striker and Alvarez going to be a starter.
     
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  22. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    It's gonna be a tough championship. Of course, we is Madrid and the title should always be handed to us and playing 38 rounds is useless because we are the best, but Barcelona and Atletico look stronger than last season. Not sure if Girona can repeat what they did this season. They seem to be having a slow transfer window so far.
     
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  23. Forcamadrid2

    Forcamadrid2 Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 13, 2017
    On Negreida thing.....
    You are a Mayor, PM or similar and have been found to have received payments from a subject you rule over, yet some think there is nothing wrong with that.
    Smh
     
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  24. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Football is the least olympic sport in the olympics. That's quite the achievement.
     
  25. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    I agree about Atletico, but how Barca is better than last season?
     

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