Madridistas All Over Copa And Euros Collide While Colombians Dominate - The Other Teams Thread

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  1. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    He drives me crazy because he has great mobility but his ball handling isn't good. I can't believe he was a futsal player because his ball control isn't of a futsal player.
     
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  2. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Oddly enough if he grew his hair out and claimed he's female there wouldn't be a problem.

    If anything he is treating her as an equal.
     
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  3. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    I made the mistake of watching this Haiti Saudi match and my word are these teams terrible.

    The Gold Cup is such low bottom barrel quality.
     
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  4. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    A German reporter said a lot of players from Europe simply do not want to be stuck with the rest of team for that long and plan to phone in it at the CWC for an early exit. Said the experience reminded them of a national team tournament and some are already sick of it, mostly guys with families.
     
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  5. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
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    If there is one team that will not be phoning it in for CWC it'll be Real Madrid. We're here to win it

    But I don't see Nasser letting PSG half-ass this tournament as well now that they've finally climbed the UEFA mountaintop.

    The rest of the UEFA teams are those who need to money like Porto/Benfica/Inter or those like Bayern/BVB who can't be bothered to care and don't really need the cash.
     
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  6. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The players don't give a shit about the money that goes into the clubs pockets.

    From what I've heard from Bayern circles every player that negotiated with the club this summer only wanted to play the CWC if they get paid extra for it.

    The only thing you can rely on is the competitive spirit of the players, because financially, they're last in line to profit from this circus cup.
     
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  7. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    Any player phoning it in under the likes of LE, Pep will get benched. PSG are up for it, City made signings before CWC. Maybe the likes of Atleti can use "didn't take seriously" excuse after thrashings like yesterday from PSG.
     
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  8. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    City phoned it in the entire season. Give me a break.

    By the way, the report was live before the Atleti game, during the Bayern match, so nice try.

    There will be European sides that will crash out early.
     
  9. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    There are some European sides that crash out during NT World Cup as well. South American clubs can cause an upset or two.

    Top European sides will go deep and win the tournament. All kinds of theories will continue regardless.
     
  10. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Not every player will show the same commitment. I don't see what's so controversial about it.

    The entire tournament seems so weird to me. There's this notion about the bonus earnings, but there's no clear picture on the financing of the tournament (which is allegedly not fully provided yet), nor how the bonuses will be spread out to players and participating teams.
    No clear picture on costs of participation either, which makes people talk about the bonuses as if players play in this completely for free, or covered by their regular contract, or that the clubs cover zero expenses while doing this.

    Just seems incredibly naive and untransparent, but it makes sense that a sport that believed the myth that "kit sales pay for star players" would be equally naive about this.

    After being involved with the NFL Europe game last year, I can tell you that the NFL stretched multiple cities completely out of the picture, requesting millions for just a weekend of two teams being there, Berlin said a weekend of NFL football costs as much as an entire week or two of a UEFA/FIFA tournament. I don't even want to imagine how much the cost would be for so many football teams across so many cities. Scaling it up, and looking at what the tournament is generating right now it seems like an insane financial proposal
     
  11. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    As far as Bayern goes, the reports are that the club sees this as a replacement US pre season tour mixed in with a bit of a Thomas Müller farewell show. Everybody has their own motivations.
     
  12. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    RM pays winning bonus for CL, La Liga, CDR. There were reports about winning bonus for CWC too. Oil clubs will be offering winning bonus as well.

    Reaching CL semis is more profitable for RM than winning it due to bonus payments. But top clubs don't think just from more profit perspective by reaching semis than winning the tournament.

    Not to mention RM, Bayern and every traditional heavyweight built their brand by winning so often and that usually attracts more fans and sponsorship money.
     
  13. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    See, all very fluid and wishy washy. Just typical for this sport.

    One day it's a billion in revenue, the other the sport is dying. We're hearing it every other week.
     
  14. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    Clubs will get paid what FIFA officially announced. Nothing wishy washy about it. It's been made clear that DAZN paid 1 billion for rights after Saudi bought minority ownership.

    Saudi also one of the main sponsors of the tournament. They will financially support this until CWC 2033 in Saudi Arabia. We have seen the money they have poured into football since targeting and later winning 2034 World Cup hosting knowing well that they won't get a fraction of it back from local league revenue.
     
  15. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    FIFA adds Saudi Arabia's PIF as Club World Cup partner

    FIFA took another Saudi Arabian investment Thursday for the U.S.-hosted Club World Cup, announcing a top-tier commercial deal with the kingdom's sovereign wealth fund, which holds majority ownership of one of the 32 teams playing.

    The Saudi state's Public Investment Fund (PIF) is the 75% owner of Riyadh club Al Hilal, one of four teams in the national league it has controlled since 2023. PIF also created the LIV Golf project.

    FIFA said PIF was an official partner of the June 14-July 13 tournament being played in 11 American cities, though the value of the deal was not stated.

    Saudi state money also is effectively funding the Club World Cup broadcasting deal that has largely backed the $1 billion tournament prize fund being shared among the 32 teams, including Al Hilal, which will get an entry payment of $9.55 million.

    https://www.espn.in/soccer/story/_/...ld-cup-usa-saudi-arabia-sovereign-wealth-fund
     
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  16. 4x4s

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    #13991 4x4s, Jun 16, 2025
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    You have no idea what the club expenses are and how they distribute it though. I know for a fact for a example that a lot of players with additional occupation ensurance deals found out they don't cover this tournament.

    For all the criticism about Infantino, you haven't even reached up for air since this looney tunes cup has been drawn up.

    I find it pretty funny. Criticize the influx in cash into PSG and City, then twerk it like a Polaroid picture (oh oh) as soon as it seems some of it might fall on the floor for us to pick up.

    Absolutely laughable moral flexibility.

    I also love how a participation fee is rolled into a "bonus" when it's clear that it's a fee that is necessary to cover for costs. Tah will cost Bayern up to 4 million in additional fees depending on how far they get into this tournament, and as those bits and piece bonuses are spread around, those financial incentives get torn to shreds before the clubs get to count them.

    Whatever, I guess I'm asking for way too much accountability from a sport that has shown absolutely zero of it.
     
  17. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    So you won't be watching this tournament for morality reasons.

    I have criticized what a joke FFP has been. As if PL didn't know City were cooking the books for a decade until those Email leaks.
     
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  18. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I never said that. I'm just not creating some illusion of game changing wealth to justify this.

    It's a cash grab, and possibly a political power move to wrestle club football away from UEFA.

    Just so many awful people coming together to make this happen.
     
  19. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    Funny how the West boycotted the WC in Qatar for 'morality' and 'human right violations' yet have no problem supporting the CWC and WC26 in a country currently destroying/deporting families.
     
  20. 4x4s

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    Nobody boycotted the World Cup.
     
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  21. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    I reckon some top teams would take this tourney easy... Until the semis, where their competetive nature takes over.
     
  22. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    It also varies by age, I'm thinking a lot of older guys don't really have the energy for this shit, while for younger players it's more time to be together. Just different life situations.
     
  23. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Croatia
    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I did. Haven't watched a second of it, and Croatia went on to play the semifinal, winning the 3rd place. I didn't follow anything about it on the social media etc.

    I get your point, most people were just posturing online with fake outrage, but when you're making absolute statements like that, it's easy to debunk them.
     
  24. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Croatia
    Jun 10, 2011
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    Real Madrid
    Not mine :D Just a reupload.
     
  25. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Don't think anyone boycotted it IIRC
     

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