Madridistas All Over Copa And Euros Collide While Colombians Dominate - The Other Teams Thread

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  1. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    Most of those are starters, that's nearly half the line up. If Chelsea don't make a stand it's going to fester into a complete shitshow
     
  2. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Actually just leave it vacant. Those fan incidents should disqualify colombians too. ;)

    Jk
     
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  3. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Chelsea is opening an internal disciplinary investigation. Probably a small slap on the wrist.

    French federation launched a complaint to Fifa:

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...-legal-complaint-racist-argentina-chants-copa


    BBC article on Chelsea opening disciplinary proceedings:

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c80x1947rxzo.amp
     
  4. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    What Chelsea decide to do will create a precedence. Hope they think carefully what they want to do both now and in the future.
     
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  5. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    One thing is for sure: his teammates will have lost a lot of respect for him. That alone will make his life miserable in that dressing room. Hope the singing was worth posting on live stream.
     
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  6. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    Georgia
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    Brazil
    Probably was. This is a guy who postponed a crucial surgery just to have it done before the Copa America so he'd recover in time for it while not playing or playing badly for the team that actually pays him. I doubt he care much at all about Chelsea and his teammates there.
     
  7. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    One time I went over to the Argentina board to read some comments and I could swear that they were touting the benefits of the national team having "country over club" players.

    Now, yes, that does have its benefits for Argentina, sure. It has its benefits for the fans of Argentina. But what a horrible mindset, your club is who pays you, who you play the bulk of your games for. You owe it to your club to give them first priority.
     
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  8. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    A lot of the South Americans have this mentality
     
  9. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
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    The term "argies" is a pejorative term used by the British to say that Argentineans are "nazis" - the term "argie" arose from the Falkand war. Its offensive. And you used it without knowing it. . . you see, pot. kettle. analogy?
     
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  10. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Brazil
    I was not aware of that. Point taken.
     
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  11. Loco

    Loco Member+

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    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
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    This is why I like you. Because you don't dig your heels and try to be right all the time. You are pragmatic and reasonable. Unimpeachable b/c you're a good person. Thank you.
     
  12. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Well will you follow his lead here and admit your country has a serious issue with race?

    At least @celito is completely ignorant of an offensive term he used... while your players continually say and sing significantly more offensive things; of course with the BS smirk, snark and apology afterward.

    Yet I don't see the education or outrage there..

    I have been to many countries. None let me know how much they detected the existence of someone who looked different like Argentina. My wealth, my charm, my kindness... those did not matter.
     
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  13. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Interesting about the term argies. It’s very common and I thought it was just an abbreviation
     
  14. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Just took a look at that guy's posting history.

    Smh

    So ironic that someone who mocks anyone being offended can get so offended himself.
     
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  15. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    I honestly thought it was just another abbreviated way of saying Argentineans. Like we are called Brazucas or Americans are called Yanks . What got me is that I’ve seen that term written in contexts that weren’t offending Argentineans .
     
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  16. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    You should stick around. It's cool here.
     
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  17. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    ALL COUNTRIES!! ALL COUNTRIES and ORGANIZATIONS have an expiration date of inappropriate past behavior - even the most progressive compassionate organizations. Every country allowed misogyny, discrimination based on different classes at different times. Everyone.
     
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  18. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    The term 'Yank' is used by southern Americans in a derogatory way toward non-southerners.

    The reality is that guy is asking from you and others what he can't and will refuse to give himself. The worse type of person.
     
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  19. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Why didn't you think this with @celito post?
     
  20. Loco

    Loco Member+

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    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
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    Argentina
    I updated my personal profile to include Madrid with River Plate as my clubs. . . el enano se fue del "otro club" hace más de 3 años. . . Está bien que yo diga que prefiero Madrid!:D
     
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  21. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    I’ve never heard of what you’ve just described, that the term ‘Argies’ is referring to Argentinians being Nazis?

    It was first used in the British press to describe Argentinians, ‘the Argies are invading’, by extension the word itself of course doesn’t have positive connotations, because Argentina were invading foreign land at the time.
     
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  22. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Let's not debate who owned islands that are off the coast of Argentina and about 10,000 miles from England. That said, the term is a pejorative term used to dehumanized a country that was the "enemy" - the way during WW2 the US would called Japanese people a pejorative term very alike the Argie term (which I rather not used b/c I don't want to offend).

    But you don't have to believe me, you can look it up and research who used it and how it became used. It is offensive. It was meant to dehumanize during a time of war. Go ahead and look it up.

    And, we don't need to continue to discuss . this is a soccer forum, so we can go back to soccer talk
     
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  23. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    I don't think I've ever used the term either, but like @J-Mezzy I think I would've just assumed it was a shortening of "Argentine/Argentinian" and thought little else about it. I wasn't alive for the Falklands war and I'm not from the UK, I wouldn't have any reason to know one way or the other the propaganda surrounding that war. I guess that's good to know for next time.
     
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  24. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I asked about where are you connecting ‘Argies’ to mean ‘Argentinians are Nazis’ however?

    Feel free to take this to the Real Madrid NSR chat thread as I’d be curious to see your explanation.
     
  25. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hmm

    upon further research it is deemed offensive because the Britts used it to describe the Argentinians during their war

    but the term itself is not offensive in any way other than being deemed negative

    it would be like if Colombia attacks USA and the media says the Colombos have invaded

    the term itself means nothing

    but that’s what I read
     

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