Madridistas All Over Copa And Euros Collide While Colombians Dominate - The Other Teams Thread

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  1. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Sooner rather than later, flick and Barce will be exposed with that high line.

    They are not keeping it like that all season without getting an absolute drumming like Osasuna given them.
     
  2. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Rodri is massively overrated. Especially here. There is a difference between a fine player and a BdO winner.

    People will remember him as much as people remember Gabi when he hangs up his boots.
     
  3. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    It's only a question of time until someone figures out the best way to beat the offside game that they play.
    in today game Espnoyal scored 2 goals that was canceled only cuz of offside of millimeters and they are one of the worst teams in La liga.
    It's really outstanding complaint for Gabi because nobody going to remember him.
     
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  4. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    All this crying whenever Barca plays man. Pathetic.

    Credit to them, they're doing well right now.
     
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  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I think a lot of this debate around Rodri 's importance will be answered by how City do this season w/o him.

    Gotta say, early on they don't look like winning anything this season, even though Haland has been more clincal compared to last. They are 6-2-2 since Rodri's injury but that's during a pretty easy stretch of fixtures. So, let's see.... I know they traditionally play better in the second halves of seasons.
     
  6. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
  7. Naz07

    Naz07 Member

    Aug 5, 2007
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    Real Madrid
    Not a shot at Rodri as he’s obviously a vital cog in Pep’s system with no apparent replacement, but people also tend to brush over the fact that KDB has been missing as well. Last year, they vastly improved when he came back from injury as well.

    Again not to belittle Rodri’s influence, but I think City generally are lacking a little more than that, not sure if it’s fatigue, loss of motivation or the loss of the aforementioned players but they definitely lack a bit of that intensity from years past IMO.
     
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  8. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    while it’s true that the high line will probably backfire and some point , we did rest many starters against Osasuna . It’s March more likely that this will backfire in the champions league.
     
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  9. LaCule

    LaCule Member

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 14, 2024
    If Kroos won the Euros he would win it ahead of Rodri and Vini. Pretty much the only reason he didn't.
     
  10. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    2 more weeks.
     
  11. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    Like Xavi and Iniesta did at 2010 and 2012 when they won the World cup and Euros? Or maybe like Sneijder at 2010 when he won a treble with Inter while kicking Barca ass and getting to the WC final?
     
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  12. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Brazil
    It also depends what type of replacement you have for that position. Rodri is obviously a fantastaic player, but Fernandinho played that position for years and they were a well oiled machine with him there.
     
  13. Xourtois

    Xourtois Member

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 25, 2024
    Fernandinho was one of the reason why City had no midfiled control. Rodri took city three levels above with him replacing a limited Fernandinho.

    Rodri is in balondor convo for a reason, lol at Passing fads like Fernandinho being mentioned at the same breath.

    Rodri is a better player than freaking Casemiro and probably only second to Busquets overall In the last decade.
     
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  14. celito

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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    I never rated Fernandinho that high (I obviously have reasons not to) ... but you think Man City had no midfield control the years he played ?
     
  15. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Yea, I don't rate Fernandindho that highly either. But it's disingenuous to claim City had no midfield control with him. 2017-2019 City team dominated the whole league and had points tally of 100 and 98. They had KDB at his peak. City teams since 2019 are three levels higher? Come on.
     
  16. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    But.... but they have the best coach the world has ever seen and are playing a "system" that if any other team doesn't play like it they are playing negative football, plus , "the machine", Rodri or not that must mean something no? i read and hear about it nonstop, maybe not to anyone else but to me it would be shocking that with all that they solely depend on Rodri to be ...."effective"
     
  17. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I don't understand what we're trying to do here.
    A lot of people with a vast experience in football (Capello, Matthäus, Hummels, various others just recently) see a fantastic football player in Rodri.

    I don't see the need to push back in loserdom. Whether he's the best player in the world is up for debate, but this whole "meh, he's nothing special" thing is weird.
     
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  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    I think Pep will try to lure Zubimendi in January. He kinda considered Liverpool for a while last summer so it's worth a try.

    Saying City will struggle without a DM replacement is stating the obvious. I don't remember any team in last couple of decades winning anything significant without a starting DM. Pep can build 100 point teams with Fernandindho, but asking Nunez to fill in for a DM is too much. System can only cover so much.
     
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  19. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    So a guy the entire football world gave praise to is just another DM?

    This really feels like the Modric case only reversed.
     
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  20. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    So winning Euro was the difference between finishing 9th and 1st
     
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  21. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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  22. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    He's a world class DM. City has world class starters in every position and some back ups are world class too.

    I'd say it's disrespecting Rodri when people try to elevate him by saying "look City sucks with Nunes as replacement now that's how important Rodri is".

    You ignored that narrative and when someone countered it with Kroos' importance can be measured in same manner, you deflected with some German local voting. :D
     
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  23. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    *me watching United’s coaching fiasco with popcorn*
     
  24. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    They signed a pretty good one.
     
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  25. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Kroos at his peak is better than Rodri, I'm just saying he doesn't have the public push for invididual awards.
     

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